Desoto Super Race

[OldSchool+]

Additionally, this points up two things:

>Any sentence that includes the words "They all need to..." is an effort in futility, if not silliness.

>At the risk of contradicting my own point above () each track must build it's own base of cars, pretty much how it has always been. And a lot of low dollar cars ensure liquidity. Everything else is just...talk.

[OldSchool+]

Dirt is good, fun to watch, and fun to drive, also the tire bill is cheaper.

But man it looks rough on equipment. The motor loading and unloading, same with the tranny, u joints, and rear end... All the suspension points beating themselves to death, and the frame flex...

Additionally, "sheet metal" is a frequent replacement, and it appears that on top of all that there is frequent suspension and/or motor improvements that are ongoing if you want to keep up.

Further, it appears that there is about 2 hours of pressure washing required to find the car after an event.

Ever seen a used dirt car? They are not only used, but pretty much used up.

Finally, if you prefer the sideways racing, great. If you prefer the more precise asphalt style but are racing dirt to avoid the politics, that is another tradeoff.

Nothing against dirt, but it is not the end all to short track racing issues, IMO.

[BigBlock98]

I don't disagree with you. Don't get me wrong, I like pavement racing. In fact, I prefer it. BUT, the sad state of pavement LM racing in this area was the biggest reason for our decision to make a change. We are 4 races into the season and I can assure you we have spent far less to this point than we would have had we been racing pavement. We have one wheel mark on the car, and not because we aren't racing close, but because we are racing against guys who have as much respect for your equipment as theirs. I'm not saying dirt racing doesn't have the Scofields of the world in it, but so far in the series we are running we certainly haven't seen any indication that one exists. We haven't raced against less than 20 cars. We are NEVER required to buy tires or fuel from the track and we are buying far fewer tires. Oh, and the all important thing in all of this is that we are having FUN!

[OldSchool+]

Big Block (if it is a chevy, man I could not get those things to stay together...) a question for you.

IF a form of the low dollar "affordable Late Model" similar to what has been proposed (6-8K motor, 8" tire, no advantage to spending money) with fields of 15-20 cars were running, would you consider coming back?

(Scofield is still in the field...)

ps--am sincerely glad you are having fun.

[scottgarrity07]

Dirt's fer farmin'...

[BigBlock98]

That's a great question Old School. I don't know that the driver would want to go back. He is having a blast. I won't say no, but I think it would be hard to say yes. I used to think the same thing Scott. And to a point I still do. But for the first time in years I am enjoying going to the track and looking forward to race weekends.

[scottgarrity07]

That's a great question Old School. I don't know that the driver would want to go back. He is having a blast. I won't say no, but I think it would be hard to say yes. I used to think the same thing Scott. And to a point I still do. But for the first time in years I am enjoying going to the track and looking forward to race weekends.

Just joking, Big Block. I'm glad you guys are having fun. Isn't that what it's supposed to all be about? Somehow that concept isn't embraced by Scofield and some others. It's a shame...

[OldSchool+]

a Guess

Here is a guess.

Asphalt racing is a bit big for it's britches (as am I {heavy sigh...}).

That is, the cars look a little like Cup cars from a few years back, folks spend (IMO) stupid money, the tracks have "big" events, it is looked at as a stepping stone to "bigger" things by everyone involved.

Meanwhile Joe Bob Racer is behind on the payments on the double-wide.

Dirt racing has no such delusions, and although there are big money cars and series, it seems more about the racing than the politics.

Am I wrong (hey, it happens, and frequently {heavy sigh II...}).

[dd38]

Who was driving the 30?

[BigBlock98]

I'm with you Scott. Guys like him make racing no fun what so ever.

[scottgarrity07]

Who was driving the 30?

Jesse Dutilly. Passed Scofield 3 times CLEAN on the outside. Made slight incidental contact the last time by (just racing) and Scofield "flipped the switch" and walled him. Then the usual mayhem...

[OldSchool+]

"Dirt's fer farmin'..."--SG

I dunno, hitch that red plow to a coupla mules and you could get some clay ready for plantin', now...

[OldSchool+]

Careful...

Am glad Dutilly responded.

That, suspensions and no ride are all that will change the outlook.

There have always been guys like that. As long as there are car owners that will fix the car and track owners that let them come, there always will be.

But I will tell you, I HAVE SEEN FAR MORE TRACK CALLS ERRING ON THE SIDE OF "CLEAN RACING" THAT HAVE CAUSED THE SHOW TO LOOK LIKE A POWDERPUFF DERBY THAN THE OTHER DIRECTION...

Ironically, Auburndale comes to mind. One groove track. Get under a guy, he knocks you in the infield, he gets his spot back, you are lucky if all you get is sent to the rear.

Careful whatcha wish for and all that.

[Phil Jacques]

"Dirt's fer farmin'..."--SG

I dunno, hitch that red plow to a coupla mules and you could get some clay ready for plantin', now...

Isn't it a little early for the booze to be out OS?

[BigBlock98]

Here is a guess.

Asphalt racing is a bit big for it's britches (as am I {heavy sigh...}).

That is, the cars look a little like Cup cars from a few years back, folks spend (IMO) stupid money, the tracks have "big" events, it is looked at as a stepping stone to "bigger" things by everyone involved.

Meanwhile Joe Bob Racer is behind on the payments on the double-wide.

Dirt racing has no such delusions, and although there are big money cars and series, it seems more about the racing than the politics.

Am I wrong (hey, it happens, and frequently {heavy sigh II...}).

I agree 100%. When we first started this venture it was with the intention of building a professional racing career. Fast forward 6 years and we are farther away then we started. We felt like we had 2 options: quit racing all together or try something different. We decided to go dirt racing and the rest as they is history.