Matt Albee

[Matt Albee]

I've never understood why NSS never made much of an attempt to use DIS and NASCAR drivers to boost it's fan base. I remember one year they had a race where local drivers donated the use of their cars and a group of cup drivers showed up and ran a race for charity. You'd think there would be autograph sessions out there every night of Speedweeks. I think some of the cup drivers go out there anyway, Rusty goes out when his son races. But NSS chooses to do nothing to capitalize on it.
I know when Robert Hart signed up with NASCAR, he told everyone it had been a burning desire of his father to be a NASCAR sanctioned track. If that was true, they need to get on with it. Start doing some serious cross promotion.
On the other hand, NASCAR isn't really interested in helping short tracks, and certainly not a track like NSS that is floundering anyway. And i don't know that NSS has the status anymore to get the cup drivers to help with promotion. That ship may have sailed.

[OldSchool+]

Here is a fun fact for Matthew:

Didja know that they ran NASCAR Sportsman, er Busch, er Xfinity races at Barberville/Volusia County when it was paved?

http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com...hp?trackid=394

And now it ain't paved...

[scottgarrity07]

There isn't a track in FL that has a location issue. My original statement was in regard to NSS being trapped on the east coast compared to the rest, a fairly distant drive from even it's closest track. A large number of drivers and teams I have found seem to be located on the West Coast between Sarasota and Clearwater and south of Kissimmee. They aren't going to make a weekly trek to NSS nor will their fans. It's easier for them to go elsewhere than make the cross state trek to NSS in a lot of cases. The fact that DAYTONA is there means nothing honestly. Most people travel from all across the country and world as I previously stated to come to DAYTONA. Just because the place has 100k fans in the stands doesn't mean they all came from downtown Daytona...

Location not so good for OSW, Bronson and Lake City. The rest, ditto.....

[Matt Albee]

Ummm,,,,you may want to Google that...

I just did. Looks like the World Center of Racing is still located approx. in the center of Indiana.
On a side note, when i first googled it, the usual helpful response came back.... did you mean the World Center of B.S.... After googling that too, i was taken straight to the DIS web site.

[kendo]

There isn't a track in FL that has a location issue. My original statement was in regard to NSS being trapped on the east coast compared to the rest, a fairly distant drive from even it's closest track. Most drivers and teams I have found seem to be located on the West Coast between Sarasota and Clearwater and south of Kissimmee. It's easier for them to go elsewhere than make the cross state trek to NSS in a lot of cases. The fact that DAYTONA is there means nothing honestly. Most people travel from all across the country and world as I previously stated to come to DAYTONA. Just because the place has 100k fans in the stands doesn't mean they all came from downtown Daytona...

I'll tell ya what,,,It sure is entertaining to watch you talk in circles,make up crap as you go along,and than come up with your own facts and theories in an attempt to support your positions...Hey,maybe that's why no one is at the asphalt tracks?

[Matt Albee]

Here is a fun fact for Matthew:

Didja know that they ran NASCAR Sportsman, er Busch, er Xfinity races at Barberville/Volusia County when it was paved?

http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com...hp?trackid=394

And now it ain't paved...

I do know that, and i believe Gordon won it. Last time i was over there, it actually was still paved, they were racing only go karts on it apparently. There are 2 tracks side by side. One paved, the other is the dirt track.

[OldSchool+]

"It sure is entertaining to watch [Matt Albee] talk in circles, [and so on and so forth...]"--Kendo

Or maybe run for Hillary's job, great qualifications!

[OldSchool+]

Matt, history for ya:

The "big" track at VSP was initially dirt.

Then they paved it and ran the Busch cars, along with an asphalt "grand slam of speed" or something that competed with NSS during speedweeks, notably running Supermods as well.

Then they ripped the pavement off and built the little pavement track. Believe it or not, they tried Supers on that bullring for a year or two. No room to wind up the big blocks, and they tended to push. Now they run go carts there.

[Matt Albee]

Location not so good for OSW, Bronson and Lake City. The rest, ditto.....

Lake City is a pretty good sized place from what i remember. With the sporadic leasing of the place, it spends most of the time closed, so you can't blame location on that.
OSW is out in the middle of east nowhere, but they sure have a giant city to draw from. You just have to give the folks in Orlando something to drive out to Bithlo for. That hasn't happened for a long time. Location isn't really the problem there either.
Now with Bronson, you might be able to make a case for location being a problem. But again, the fact that the track is usually closed, or might as well be, makes it hard for fans and racers to plan their weekends. When the track was up and running, i believe they drew a pretty good fan and car count from the towns around the track.

[Phil Jacques]

I'll tell ya what,,,It sure is entertaining to watch you talk in circles,make up crap as you go along,and than come up with your own facts and theories in an attempt to support your positions...Hey,maybe that's why no one is at the asphalt tracks?

Go back to touting dirt as the greatest thing since sliced bread troll

You and knowitalbee are two peas in a pod. 25 years of personal experience, observation and life in general support my facts. I need nothing more than that.

If you REALLY think mainstream NASCAR fans are interested in us, you are as crazy as shittrack...

[Phil Jacques]

Location not so good for OSW, Bronson and Lake City. The rest, ditto.....

I should have been more clear. Speaking in terms of RELEVANT tracks lol

[Matt Albee]

Matt, history for ya:

The "big" track at VSP was initially dirt.

Then they paved it and ran the Busch cars, along with an asphalt "grand slam of speed" or something that competed with NSS during speedweeks, notably running Supermods as well.

Then they ripped the pavement off and built the little pavement track. Believe it or not, they tried Supers on that bullring for a year or two. No room to wind up the big blocks, and they tended to push. Now they run go carts there.

Well alrighty then, noted.

[Phil Jacques]

Phil,

Here is a thought:

Ever considered that NSS may be happy with the status quo?

>They chose to close OSW
>They chose to drop the emods

If, as Scotty & others have alluded (& it makes sense) that the big events pay zee bills, then maybe they are happy with a few high dollar cars every week.

Advantages:

>They know the guys that show up, and like them.
>They have the fast cars and the fast tracks. Like NASCAR likes their 1.5 milers. Never mind the show, they feel "big time".
>Not many accidents to clean up, and they can take their time when there is one.
>Not a deep field payout for obvious reasons.

After all, they could come up with some version of the "Affordable Late Model" just as they switched to the grooved modified tire.

Those folks know how to run New Smyrna. Am suggesting they like just the way it is running.

Food fer thought...

I'm going to ask this one way... Would you be happy just getting by, when you have the opportunity to live very comfortably and lavishly?

The opportunity is there for everyone. Take it or fade away.

[Matt Albee]

Go back to touting dirt as the greatest thing since sliced bread troll

You and knowitalbee are two peas in a pod. 25 years of personal experience, observation and life in general support my facts. I need nothing more than that.

If you REALLY think mainstream NASCAR fans are interested in us, you are as crazy as shittrack...

knowitalbee my ass! Who was it that memorized the entire history of VSP? Sure not me.
And the correct term is trolls in a pod, not peas.

[Phil Jacques]

Well alrighty then, noted.

Matt go to www.historicaerials.com, search Volusia Speedway Park and click on the 1969 aerial... Thank me later.