SUNDAY March 29, 2015 @ ORLANDO SPEEDWORLD

[Phil Jacques]

"It doesn't really stress me out when people [say demeaning things]..."--PJ

Although you may be able to handle grief from others, it still isn't as good as a piece of cheescake--but that is still beside the point.

The real grief is internal--it is stressful when others/things don't change the way you would like them to.

For instance...I really would like you to "get" this, for (IMO) your own "good". But if you don't--now or ever...it is otay--not a lifelong "I will never give up" deal.

Most things are like that, in my experience.

Hence the reason I sold everything there and moved up north to get deep into oval track racing and start racing full time. I felt the competition would be stronger and more plentiful here. There are a ton of fantastic drivers through all levels of Florida racing, but I just don't find interest in racing against 5-10 cars.

[OldSchool+]

I understand, and therefore, theoretically, you should be as happy as a pig in a big pile o poo.

And yet...there is Florida--and "fixed" Florida at that...to presumably move to because the NE does not suit.

Not a debate here as much as food for introspective thought.

[Phil Jacques]

I understand, and therefore, theoretically, you should be as happy as a pig in a big pile o poo.

And yet...there is Florida--and "fixed" Florida at that...to presumably move to because the NE does not suit.

Not a debate here as much as food for introspective thought.

Whether I move back there or not, I just want to see FL succeed. It deserves it. There are too many awesome tracks and awesome people in FL for it to be where it is. Obviously, as I have said, other than a few friends and the prospect of moving there again one day maybe soon maybe later, I have no real vested interest in FL racing other than I love FL and believe it should have just as much success as they do here and in the midwest.

I see some things here that are similar to FL and work. I also see some things that FL struggles with that are much different here and successful. I never said hey Linda or hey Kim Brown, do this because this is how it needs to be. I said hey have you guys ever tried to do this? It works here, it might help you guys down there. Somehow, my words always get twisted by someone... That's okay though because I know what is going on here, works. That's what I base my thoughts and opinions on.

[fred23]

Can you cats just pick up the phone and have this conversation????? LOL

[Phil Jacques]

Can you cats just pick up the phone and have this conversation????? LOL

LOL!

[OldSchool+]

absolutely not.

Phil yells too much and I cannot understand his accent.

[Phil Jacques]

absolutely not.

Phil yells too much and I cannot understand his accent.

Funny, people here tell me they can't understand my southern mumbles sometimes lol

[katlizy]

Kat, I've been down there. I moved back here because I didn't see enough change in FL racing to warrant me staying there. As I said, I moved here to race. If I wanted to ride around in 5 car fields down there I would have built a back yard kart track to race with friends. Now, I have said it many times, FL racing is improving and I am excited as hell to see that. I feel that Scott is one of those at the forefront of that movement. Guess what... HE'S FROM HERE! He shares a lot of the same sentiments and thoughts I do, he just says things in a much simpler and more politically correct way. I have no problem being the one people love to hate. I'll gladly wear the black hat. But there isn't anybody on this forum that wants to see FL succeed more than me. I've offered to come down to work along side Donnie, but #1, I have a good career I am not willing to leave and #2 I don't see anything FULLY changing there unless one of two things happen, People like you and ST1 get behind the track and show a little support or Ozzy lets go a few bux to allow Donnie to do what he needs to do.

Tell me, why would Ozzy or Donnie put in 100% effort for people that publicly bash and trash them and the facility? Why would ANY business get behind people like that. You are seeing the result. In a lot of ways, social media and forums have hurt businesses like that. No, OSW isn't perfect and have not lived up to what they needed to do over the past 15 years. What started all of this, I don't know. But I do know what is going to finish it. Either the place is going to turn around, or the dozers will tear it down. You are going to argue me and disagree all day long but it really starts with the fans and drivers. If you support it, it will support you. But, that will never happen. Ozzy is about money, plain and simple. If he doesn't think he can make any, he won't spend any. As of now, none of you have given him a reason to think he can make anything.

I really don't care what you or anyone says, but FL racing is it's own worst enemy. 7 tracks running the same day of the week is the first nail in the coffin, that has to be spread out to give people some variety. Whether you believe it or not, there ARE many teams that would run multiple days of the week if they could and many fans who would attend multiple shows a week if they could. There will always be your regular track loyal fans and drivers, but if you spread it out across Fri Sat Sun, that would definitely be a big start. Fair Tech and similar rules across the board is another issue. There are just enough small differences division to division that guys can't travel without spending extra time in the shop changing their cars over. Not everyone wants to do that, so they stick to what they have and where they race. Another issue to me is always going to be tech. fair tech is crucial. We all want to feel like we are treated equally. If I roll into tech and they want to check my carb, and they check another guys track width or how their lead is mounted, how is that fair? Tech everyone in that division the same every night and move on to next week. If they check my carb and I am legal, the other guy who beat me may not be legal... Think about that. Promotion is another big issue. There are a couple tracks that do well like Desoto and Showtime, I even hear about them up here. But there are other tracks that really don't seem to try. OSW is one of them that has failed miserably at this now and in the past. Posting up on FB and Karnac is not going to reach a new audience... THAT is a lot of what promotion is all about, reaching new audiences. One thing we do here that is HUGE is we have division sponsors that help pay for purses. Our modifieds are sponsored by Sunoco Race Fuels, Mini Stocks by Monster Energy, Sportsmans are sponsored by Xtramart... Having that is HUGE! Our weekly sportsman purse is 500 to win, Mods 1400, Minis $300 and LM $700... WEEKLY... Sometimes double that for bigger shows. That helps take away from the tracks operating cost for the week and allows them to do more with less. It's all business. One last problem I see is regarding car counts and many echo this, too many like divisions with just enough differences that they can't compete with each other. It spreads everything so thin that way, it's time to start combining some stuff to get the car counts up and get people closer to each other. Drivers may not care, but fans do. No fan wants to watch 10 cars run around single file all night. That's not entertaining at all. Get more cars out there and you will have more side by side action. There is no debate for that.

Arguments and whatever aside, I'd still buy any of you people a beer, but you all need to stop shitting on those who try to help. What worked 20 or 30 years ago, DOES NOT work today. Stop being resistant to change and accept the fact that you are going in the right direction, but it needs to continue. Short Track racing is growing everywhere in the country right now, help it grow in FL too. It's in you guys control.

My ADHD is in over load so I did t get past the one of two things part.


I am behind the track... So I guess it goes back to lazy squeezing some pennies out his ass.


That's all I got to say about that.. Sorry I couldn't read the rest... New meds making my eyes droop.

I wear the black hat too btw.

[rhinoracing11]

Sorry you fellas wont admitt it but the track is DEAD.you have fallen for the past three races or so.Now you share a track with want a bees racers called drifters cool as they are its not racing, the owner doesnt want traditional oval track racing.Give it up and put your energy into NSS and make it the best in Florida.Well wishers doesnt get a job done.

[shorttrackcar1]

Sorry you fellas wont admitt it but the track is DEAD.you have fallen for the past three races or so.Now you share a track with want a bees racers called drifters cool as they are its not racing, the owner doesnt want traditional oval track racing.Give it up and put your energy into NSS and make it the best in Florida.Well wishers doesnt get a job done.

Agreed and now nss is paying their strictly stock /bomber class all the way back and trophy .

[Phil Jacques]

Agreed and now nss is paying their strictly stock /bomber class all the way back and trophy .

This is an extremely healthy thing for all involved whether people want to believe it or not and sadly there are some that believe we should not be paid at all in some situations. I disagree with that. We are the show no matter if it's a Sprint or a Mini Stock. We spend countless hours and dollars to put our cars on the line, it's got to be worth something. Nobody is going to ever make a living racing at a local level but it's nice to get a little bit of that weekly expense back.

[Phil Jacques]

Sorry you fellas wont admitt it but the track is DEAD.you have fallen for the past three races or so.Now you share a track with want a bees racers called drifters cool as they are its not racing, the owner doesnt want traditional oval track racing.Give it up and put your energy into NSS and make it the best in Florida.Well wishers doesnt get a job done.

The track has been dead for a long time and that is my point. It's not a weekly track. Never has or will be. I do think BIG shows a handful of times a year could work. But the interest in funding something like that isn't even there to get it off the ground. It is what it is, I just still say support the shows you do get there because it could just be an empty field. Yanno what I mean?

[OldSchool+]

It's like having a junkie stepdaughter!
You can either hope she goes to jail, or hope she gets well.

Or it's like fruitcake. You would rather have pecan pie or chocolate cake, but ya ain't throwin' the fruitcake out the window.

Or maybe like mini-bombers. You would prefer to see the late models first, but ya ain't stayin' at the house, you are waiting...

Or maybe...

[kendo]

Agreed and now nss is paying their strictly stock /bomber class all the way back and trophy .

I have been saying this all along,we will see how it pans out as far as car counts.Heck,I may even get one!

[kendo]

. Stop being resistant to change and accept the fact that you are going in the right direction,.

Yeah,change it to dirt,,,