Great News About Desota

[Lucky6]

Comdemn Them

I am not condemning them but I have been at this race track for a while now and have watched them try and combine classes before. Like the Bombers and Purestocks or the Street Stocks and Sportsman. It just wasn't cost wise for the lower class car to try and upgrade or even the upper class to destroke a motor to run with a lower class car. Cars stop coming. Each time that they have made a change really with the bombers from 2005 to present it has killed the car count. Leave the bombers, bombers. if you want to combine a class the now Street Stocks and Sportsman are the closes. Then either run Pro Lates or Late Models. Really need to leave the bombers alone. Or that class will die as it did from 2007 to present.

Believe me when I say I hope that they get it figured out before to long or cars will start getting ready to run at Three Palms or Showtime.

[scottgarrity07]

Lucky6: Those changes were made in the past under John S. Under Jimmy Cope and Critter you are going to find a much more racer friendly environment. I think the problem kinda revolves around the Street Stocks there. The last regime had allowed them to evolve into virtual Sportsman. I think the idea is to make those cars move up and to detune the others into Bombers. Either way, come to the meeting and voice your concerns. At least when people complained they decided to give you guys an opportunity to speak out. That in itself is refreshing as opposed to having rule changes rammed down your throat, like most other tracks do (Showtime included)

[Matt Albee]

Wow what a big mistake combining the two classes. Way to far apart in cars and will cost to much money for the bombers to change to try and compete. What the hell are they thinking. Well that should send all the bombers back to the south and leave what street stocks that were thinking about coming to Desoto from Showtime at Showtime. Dumb move Desoto.

What would it cost for the bombers to compete? And isn't the reason for racing to go fast? Look, I can appreciate the fact that racing is expensive. I can appreciate that some guys don't have the desire to move up in class, or to even go faster. But some racers are working overtime to bring stock car racing down to their comfort level rather than making sure that stock car racing brings in and retains fans.
Combining classes is an easy way to give fans a show. If it costs some of the racers more money to add a______ or buy/trade for a better used _______ then it's worth it for the sport to continue. I'd contend that there's no one racing right now who couldn't invest $1000 in their car to go faster. Now there's plenty who would refuse to, but no one who really couldn't.
To tell you the truth, there are far too many classes at most oval tracks. And the majority of those classes bring in absolutely no fans other than the usual wife and kids of the racer.
I hope the Bombers don't go back south, or wherever it is Bombers go. But i'm not sure the fans would revolt over not seeing the Bomber class.

[Pun33]

I agree, make the bombers invest another $1000
what is the big deal, invest the cash or stop racing

OH...maybe that is why they all stopped the idea of just another $1000 once or twice a year to an entry level fun class

[SSMotorsports14]

To many lower budget classes! The fans don't want to see that each and every week. Twice a month would be a better option. It works at other tracks around the country. Less classes and twice a month. Then you can work with other tracks and not schedule on top of each other. What a concept that would be!

[Pun33]

Yeah, running the track classes every week for 35-42 weeks is a lot for anyone

[Lucky6]

Scott this is Kim back yrs ago Desoto did have meetings before rules were made it was held at the track for the classes that they considered changing so this is not something new they are doing the 28th however I do agree its a good idea to have it and the racers who race those divisions should attend before the final rules are in black and white to voice there concerns. Back in 2005 when the bombers came it was a lower cost division and they had the best car count some guys moved up quit or just stopped but some guys really cant afford the extra money to invest so they should just hang up there suit that's sad or 3 palms and showtime will be the place to go and I for one totally love going when bombers/road warriors race pure stocks too even the old time street stocks back then but id rather see those than most others don't get me wrong I love trucks and owm but love the lower classes also just me giving my 2 cents/ Merry Christmas

kim

[Pun33]

Most fans want to see racing, not the follow the leader you get in most upper classes or the haves, smacking the have nots around the track
the minis and the bomber do put on a good racing show and with the lower car counts in your upper divisions (due to all the $1000 more here and there) what have you got left.......hell that is why so many run the gokarts and whatever they can get to full the night

[Matt Albee]

I agree, make the bombers invest another $1000
what is the big deal, invest the cash or stop racing

OH...maybe that is why they all stopped the idea of just another $1000 once or twice a year to an entry level fun class

If it's an entry level class, then no one stopped. They moved up a class or two.

[Matt Albee]

Most fans want to see racing, not the follow the leader you get in most upper classes or the haves, smacking the have nots around the track
the minis and the bomber do put on a good racing show and with the lower car counts in your upper divisions (due to all the $1000 more here and there) what have you got left.......hell that is why so many run the gokarts and whatever they can get to full the night

Fans want to hear racing engines, the noise is what hooks any fan. Don't get much of that with Bombers.
You've got plenty of haves and have nots in every class, including Bombers. If someone wants to spend money to go faster, there's always a way no matter what class you're in.
No one, and I mean no one is going to drive any distance or pay very much money to watch a Bomber race. So instead of trying for the lowest common denominator, lets combine the classes and give the fans a full field of cars. That's what's going to produce races that fans want to pay to watch.

[scottgarrity07]

I agree with you 100%, Kim. I think all you Bomber/Road Warrior guys should go to the meeting and ask that you not have any expense added to keep you competitive. Entry level classes need to be as inexpensive as possible. It would make sense to ask the Street Stock guys to either detune to RW or upgrade to Sportsman. I agree that there are too many classes but there needs to be a place for the entry class racer to be competitive and not have to go broke. Not everyone has that extra $1000 laying around. I don't, and I race Sportsman. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[Matt Albee]

I agree with you 100%, Kim. I think all you Bomber/Road Warrior guys should go to the meeting and ask that you not have any expense added to keep you competitive. Entry level classes need to be as inexpensive as possible. It would make sense to ask the Street Stock guys to either detune to RW or upgrade to Sportsman. I agree that there are too many classes but there needs to be a place for the entry class racer to be competitive and not have to go broke. Not everyone has that extra $1000 laying around. I don't, and I race Sportsman. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

I couldn't agree more that not everyone has $1000 lying around. But of course that wasn't really the point being made. Increments of $100 per month gets you to way over $1000 by the end of the year easily. If that kind of money is a burden, stop racing now! Otherwise, use that money to improve your race car. As we all know, it happens one step at a time for most racers. Take a 20th place car and by the end of the month make it a 15th place car.
No one has said anything about eliminating anyone from racing. Well... maybe the guy who can't invest an additional $25 per week to go faster. But again, we need to be far more concerned with the show than the rules. And combining classes gives a larger field per race. That's what the fans and sponsors are going to pay for.

[scottgarrity07]

Problem is, as racers, almost all of us are already spending every last dime that we can to race as much as we can. There is no extra place to come up with $25 here or $100 there. Especially as you move down the divisions. Rule changes are frowned upon because they always flat out cost racers money that could go to paying for the expenses for us to be able to run more often. Like it or not rule changes can lead to cars being parked. The show is important but without cars there is no show, so rules need to be written in a way that helps car counts. In that way rules are very important. Jimmy and Critter are racers and understand what needs to be done. They will get this right.

[Lucky6]

Matt

Matt, you made the statement that cars didn't stop they moved up. Really then you have fell and hit your damn head. I can't tell you how many bombers no longer run because of rule changes and the cost of moving up. Go faster maybe but having fun is the key for many who race in the lower classes. Being able to compete at that level is draining on the wallet enough. Making them spend even $25 more dollars a week to try and complete will kill the car count and the show as you put it. this has already been proven over the last few years. Don't combine the classes. if you can afford to move up then do so. If not then give them a chance to race and have fun and still put on a show for the fans.

[shorttrackcar1]

I agree lucky6 I am sure there are a lot of guys racing who love to move up but they just cant afford too.