OSW Strictly Stocks do NOT require a ROLL CAGE

[al_tere_go_05]

formula cars have alot more than you think

[andre]

Hey! Thanks for the teaching. Always ready to learn something.

[UREZ2PASS]

This motorcycle has a roll cage.

[Lizzard]

I was just saying you can bring your non roll cage car to OSW n race strictly stock...........I WAS TOLD.

Newer cars have excellent impact protection built in. I understand the safety first issue. I drive w a HANS in my strictly stock. Over kill? Yep.

The sport wont survive if we don't get the cars out and there are millions of cars out there that can race.

Bandeleros? Really? Some kids have enough $ but we need the 17-25 year olds who have none. If they could run a Neon w no cage vs 20 others.....? Fun or what?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/3780102675.html

[UREZ2PASS]

I was just saying you can bring your non roll cage car to OSW n race strictly stock...........I WAS TOLD.

Newer cars have excellent impact protection built in. I understand the safety first issue. I drive w a HANS in my strictly stock. Over kill? Yep.

The sport wont survive if we don't get the cars out and there are millions of cars out there that can race.

Bandeleros? Really? Some kids have enough $ but we need the 17-25 year olds who have none. If they could run a Neon w no cage vs 20 others.....? Fun or what?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/3780102675.html

One reason you don't see many young people in racing is because they need a truck and trailer to get their stuff to the track.

Now if I owned a track, I would build mini storage type buildings on property and rent out space for people to store and work on their cars.

[Frasson118]

I fit that category. I could afford a POS Racecar easier than I can afford a truck & trailer.

[kendo]

One reason you don't see many young people in racing is because they need a truck and trailer to get their stuff to the track.

Now if I owned a track, I would build mini storage type buildings on property and rent out space for people to store and work on their cars.

When I started racing I had no place to work on the car or store it,moving from place to place as I wore out my welcome...That is a brilliant idea!

[wesnsf]

We are working on storage area for rent and we are looking for 4&6 cylinder car for sale

[Winger]

One reason you don't see many young people in racing is because they need a truck and trailer to get their stuff to the track.

Now if I owned a track, I would build mini storage type buildings on property and rent out space for people to store and work on their cars.

Yeah, I've thought the same thing. I think the new track being built in NY will be doing something like this. It was discussed initially, but I don't know if it's being implemented.

Sorry guys, I wasn't going to comment on this subject but I think it's crazy to race without a roll cage. You think cars are built better now than they used to be. Let me take a 1950's car and run head on into your new model. Let's see who fares better. Our cars are better because they have effective seat belts, air bags, crush absorption, and some better materials to work with. F1 cars are built with a carbon fiber tubs. Go to a junk yard and look at the cars that were involved in a 70 mile an hour crash into a tree. If the occupant survived it's only because of the seat belts with the air bag. Your race car air bag is only good for the first "rub" in racing. There are others affected if you don't have a cage. There's the driver who's involved in the crash that kills you, there's the EMS personnel, track personnel, and spectators who have to deal with it too. Do you have any idea how they will feel?

[Lizzard]

You guys saying racing without cages is unsafe.....

Well, there are no cars built in the "50's" racing anywhere. So, they would never run "head on" into my "new model"......

Yes, cars built under the ever oppressive government regulations ARE MORE SAFE than those built when you were young.

They are. Their internal "roll cages" are way better than any little cage a local guy would install. (Sure someone can put in a NASCAR cage that weights more than the original car).

As a fact, I have seen road race cars that had cages installed where more structural integrity was LOST by cutting to install the cage.

Bottom line....modern cars are tough and safe. If the powers that be want to make the sport 100% safe then RACING IS DEAD.

Hell, I allow my sons to fly airplanes by themselves with NO FRIGGING ROLL CAGES, AIRBAGS, AUTOMATIC FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.....etc...

I guess I suck as a parent and no nothing about safety.

[UREZ2PASS]

Well, there are no cars built in the "50's" racing anywhere. They are all on auction on TV.

Yes, cars built under the ever oppressive government regulations ARE MORE SAFE than those built when you were young.

They are. Their internal "roll cages" are way better than any little cage a local guy would install.

As a fact, I have seen road race cars that had cages installed where more structural integrity was LOST by cutting to install the cage.

Bottom line....modern cars are tough and safe.

You are very mistaken in your assumption that modern cars are tough and safe. A solid hit in the drivers door can severely injure or kill a driver. Safety equipment in racecars is there for a reason. The roll cage includes door bars for driver protection, they do more than roll over protection. Seats, belts, and head and neck restraints are also necessary. If you can't afford safety equipment. You can't afford to race.

[UREZ2PASS]

Since you edited your post, I'll add this.

Yes, It is unsafe to race a car without a properly installed cage. Racing will never be 100 % safe, but it is foolish not to make it a safe as possible.

[Lizzard]

OK, I got it..... You are afraid. You want everyone to be completely safe.

I got a car for you...

Let's race these.....

[Lizzard]

Oh, and since I USED ONE.....LET'S INCLUDE ONE OF THESE IN EACH CAR...

at a cost of $800,000

[Winger]

You guys saying racing without cages is unsafe.....

Well, there are no cars built in the "50's" racing anywhere. So, they would never run "head on" into my "new model"......

Yes, cars built under the ever oppressive government regulations ARE MORE SAFE than those built when you were young.

They are. Their internal "roll cages" are way better than any little cage a local guy would install. (Sure someone can put in a NASCAR cage that weights more than the original car).

As a fact, I have seen road race cars that had cages installed where more structural integrity was LOST by cutting to install the cage.

Bottom line....modern cars are tough and safe. If the powers that be want to make the sport 100% safe then RACING IS DEAD.

Hell, I allow my sons to fly airplanes by themselves with NO FRIGGING ROLL CAGES, AIRBAGS, AUTOMATIC FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.....etc...

I guess I suck as a parent and no nothing about safety.

Well, time to burst your bubble. There are a couple cars from the 50's still running in the street stock class in NY. But that's besides the point. The walls are just as hard as they were in the 50's. Actually most of them are much harder cause they were wood and steel back then. If modern cars are as safe as you imply, there would be no fatal accidents now. Unfortunately, there are fatal accidents every day and most accident impacts occur at less than 40 mph. Cars that are racing are usually going faster when they hit walls or other cars. An impact at 60 mph has twice as much energy generated as a car going 40 mph. when speed increases from 40 to 60 mph, So the speed goes up 50 percent while the energy released in a crash more than doubles.
But I see your point. Anyone who doesn't think a roll cage is necessary should not wear a helmet, firesuit, or seatbelts either. They obviously have nothing worth protecting with a helmet and it would be a waste of good money to spend it on a firesuit or seatbelts. Heck racing seats are absolutely not needed. It would make racing better in the long run. It would actually be a benefit to society. The world doesn't need the gene pool diluted with the DNA of these people.