Invert This!!!

[egspeedway]

I can see inverting the top 5 or something like that to give the guys who have the car to run up front get a chance to, but if you got a car that is junk and has no chance to win you need to stay in the back. The guys who are running up front and have put alot of money in there car do not need someone who is driving a crappy car to wreck them and waste their or their sponsor's money.

I totally agree with a top 5 or 6 inversion un fortunately at OSW this appears to be the entire field in most classes. Issues like this may certainly contribute. Most of our damage has occured when we have had a bad draw and had to start behind a wad of slower cars and drivers.

[straight up]

im all for great competion and passing as much as anyone else . but the same cars are going to end up up front anyhow . all the inversion does is determine how many cars get destroyed getting there . at this time of terrible car counts we shouldnt be tearing up the few we have . the goal is to get cars back . hmmmm , does NASCAR put the start and park cars up front after qualifying ? NO ! real race fans would rather see the junk get off the track so they can watch the actual race play out , instead of watching the leaders dodge a weapon in every turn . NASCAR also has a minimum speed requirement in place to get the junk out of the way . cutting costs for the racer in any way possible is the number one priority in this economy . we need to get the racers back not destroy what few we have . maybe down the road when and if the cars come back and the stands are full , something new and exciting can be implemented for bigger races if the drivers ALL agree to it . and when you only have 4 car fields and 17 people in the stands a show isnt what you should be concerned about .

[Winger]

im all for great competion and passing as much as anyone else . but the same cars are going to end up up front anyhow . all the inversion does is determine how many cars get destroyed getting there . at this time of terrible car counts we shouldnt be tearing up the few we have . the goal is to get cars back . hmmmm , does NASCAR put the start and park cars up front after qualifying ? NO ! real race fans would rather see the junk get off the track so they can watch the actual race play out , instead of watching the leaders dodge a weapon in every turn . NASCAR also has a minimum speed requirement in place to get the junk out of the way . cutting costs for the racer in any way possible is the number one priority in this economy . we need to get the racers back not destroy what few we have . maybe down the road when and if the cars come back and the stands are full , something new and exciting can be implemented for bigger races if the drivers ALL agree to it . and when you only have 4 car fields and 17 people in the stands a show isnt what you should be concerned about .

If the fast cars are going to end up front anyway, as you state, what's the issue. The issue is they have to prove it. That seems to be the problem also. Some can't prove it.

You can't compare Nascar "CUP" racing to local short track racing. If you want to compare Nascar short track racing to our local short tracks, that's another issue. Cup races are 400 to 500 laps or miles. There are pit stops. Fast cars that have a problem after qualifying, but before a race, have to start in back. Fast cars have to pass slow cars, often several times a race. Oh and Nascar does put "start and park" cars up front if they qualify there. It's happened a few times this year already. Not a pole but a top ten starting position.

If you have only 4 car fields and 17 spectators, you should most certainly be concerned about the show. If the show is good, you'll have more of both. I agree that other issues have to be worked on also. But, you don't want to have a bunch of cars and full grandstand of people and put on a lousy show. That just leads to small fields and empty stands. You have to work on making it a good show to get them back and keep them.

[Boneman]

316 is not that slow. He has raced for a few years and I think he is leading the points. You guys that were not there make it sound like Speedworld dredged up some old demo cars to put on the front row, but that did not happen. 316 is a fairly competitive car that appears to have made a driving mistake.

[tccaz]

Being only a fan and not a racer I wish the field would invert all the time to me there is nothing more boring than watching the fast cars start in the front. I do have a question though, What difference does it make if you have to pass the slow car for the lead or lap him? I agree with Jerry grow some and race and quit whining. If you didn't build the car to compete what do you have it for?

[chassisdude]

Invert

This is one of a few problems short track racing has here in Fla. The only people that like straight up starts are the pole setters and there fans, but most people pay to get in to a track to watch a race, not follow the leader. I have both driven and owned cars and have always been able to qualify well with my cars and always started towards the rear of the field, ran mostly 30 lap features and again with some luck and a lot of hard work, won a lot of those races, both as a driver and as a owner. I will be honest, I have cut way back at going to a lot of races because of the fastest guy at the track starting on the pole, to me that is not racing. Being a bit of a smart butt, if you are worried about scratching the paint or denting a fender maybe you should try drag racing, you start up front every time and your paint job lasts all year.............Chassisdude

[backdoorbob]

Although That 316 Might Not Want To Unload When We Show, Hes Got One Comin! Rob Kasye Jr #3 Kasyebuilt Super Stock

Thats a real smart statement. Now my question is if you go out there and wreck this guy and he ends up killed??? What if??? You put your big fat foot in your trap buddy!!! His family would own Kasyebuilt Cars.
This guy has every right to race. Matter of fact he is the points leader. I would also lay money that he is legal!!! Who cares where he starts. What do you think they should just give you the win???? Yea that would be good for the track. If you can't race with the Orlando boys stay your candy @$$ at New Smyrna!!!!

[KASYEBUILT RACECARS]

Sorry Rob, but this was (originally) a 50 lap race, so why race the guy so hard so early? It was plain his car was pushing like a dump truck, so just wait behind him to get out of the groove and blast right by then see if you had anything for Gould... If you don't feel comfortable racing side by side with the guy, then don't... Better to bide your time and finish second than take your car home in a basket....

10-4 ive been racing a long time starting in sportsman to end up in goodyear challenge series, i know what it takes to win a big race. as for this incident i wasnt even tickling the gas pedal! just tryin to tip toe my way around the junk and watch gould drive away! you can let him go only for so long. you dont want to use up your stuff running the leader down for 20 laps, you'll have nothing left to pass when you get to him! we havent purchased a set of new tires all year long do to the slow economy. everything that car has is hard work and dedication. it should be the same for the rest of the field. hard work gets you to the front, not an inversion. im not asking for a free ride, just looking to get we work so hard for!

[UREZ2PASS]

As a fan, Invert them all.

As a racer, invert us all, unless I'm on the pole.

[KASYEBUILT RACECARS]

When you made the statements you had a smile on you face, so If you trying to be serious then maybe you should be more clear next time. But I did laugh when you said he was a lapped car.......he was not at the time he was second. Yes he was pushing and all but that happens in a lot of racing and the guy passing has to be patient and wait for the move. Inversions do make the races more interesting and the fans thought so as well. If you guys would have started straight up, it would have not been exciting. I would certainly not laugh at anyone who wrecks their race car, and that is not what happened. We hope you will return and race again, but we will make it more exciting for the fans and that may mean inversions, Thanks

well rick i definately wasnt smiling, you were! and we will be back to race only because we have history there. you should try being more professional to the people who spend the last dime of that weeks pay check to get to the track and look for a RACE! not a demo derby. defend that guy if you will, but its true that he in no way shape or form belonged on the front row!!!!! If he chooses to start there, at least drive like you belong. That car never went through the middle. He was over driving the hell out of that car! Patient, i really dont know how much more patients i could have displayed! I gave him three or for laps to get it together, and he got it together with the left side of my car and drove me into the fence! I had him 80 percent clear in the middle of three and four with about 4 feet of door space! A damn school bus with kermit the frog could have made it through there without wrecking me. There was nothing else i could have done! Now my car is completely destroyed from the left rear all the way around to the right rear! All to put on a show for the 15 fans in the seats! Yes this is a hobby that i devote my life to and will be doing so for the next 3 or 4 weeks, and its going to be expensive! You guys bitch about the car count, well theres one less showing up now. All this could have been avoided!

[KASYEBUILT RACECARS]

Part of RACING, is identifying and using strategy to get past the "squirrels". If you think they should just move out of your way, you are a DRIVER, not a RACER. If you are all thart great yourself, you eventually WILL pass them... it's nobodys (including the track & its rules) job to make it easier for you to get to the front. That is up to YOU.

Grow some balls and RACE!

Thanks for the comment. I never said he should move over, I was identifying and using strategy for three laps and he simply ran out of talent, never had any to start with. Your right, i am a driver, a damn good one at that! maybe just a little to nice this particular evening! And Qualifying is just what it means maybe you should look it up! If you cant run up front you just dont belong there!

[dave41]

invert

hotshot, you knew he was going to push up so drive under him.

[KASYEBUILT RACECARS]

im all for great competion and passing as much as anyone else . but the same cars are going to end up up front anyhow . all the inversion does is determine how many cars get destroyed getting there . at this time of terrible car counts we shouldnt be tearing up the few we have . the goal is to get cars back . hmmmm , does NASCAR put the start and park cars up front after qualifying ? NO ! real race fans would rather see the junk get off the track so they can watch the actual race play out , instead of watching the leaders dodge a weapon in every turn . NASCAR also has a minimum speed requirement in place to get the junk out of the way . cutting costs for the racer in any way possible is the number one priority in this economy . we need to get the racers back not destroy what few we have . maybe down the road when and if the cars come back and the stands are full , something new and exciting can be implemented for bigger races if the drivers ALL agree to it . and when you only have 4 car fields and 17 people in the stands a show isnt what you should be concerned about .

thanks for the comment! its good to see that there are still some racers out there!

[backdoorbob]

and we will be back to race only because we have history there.

well theres one less showing up now. All this could have been avoided!

I'm confused. Are you coming back or not? How come the 316 doesnt need to start there? What about if you were to lap him and he did it? Dude just shut up and race!!! or go plant tulips!!!!

[UREZ2PASS]

It takes balls to pass on the outside at OSW -

Given the same circumstances, what will you do next time ? I'm not busting your chops, just a little curious. Sorry your car got wrecked.