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  • #16
    I am Curious

    I have a couple comments and questions concerning the e mods and NSS

    First of all we are talking about car counts... correct ?

    We all know that at NSS you generally need a big motor to keep up down the straights. yes a well handling car will be better in the corners but its hard to beat good ole H.P. down the straights.

    Heres a thought. Standardized all the rules at all the tracks in the mod class. No variations period.

    Sell one set of tires at every track in the mod class

    Even the playing field when it comes to the motors. Restrictor plates handed out in the morning ?

    Cam rules ? I am not sure but I certainly know that theres alot of cheated up crates........for years they been cheating the crates and taking advantage of weight breaks.

    Finally if you want west coast cars to make the journey you should consider matching the payout. IDK what NSS pays for a feature but Showtime pays 1200 for a 50 lapper with 14 cars or more. They also pay well through the field.

    It never seems to work dividing classes unless they are those annoying Dodge neons that ole school mentioned.

    Just my thoughts.
    Last edited by openwm53; 06-06-2016, 09:01 AM.
    Doug Miller # 53

    2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
    2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
    2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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    • #17
      Doug,

      A question: Would you rather add weight or add a plate?

      Regardless, it would seem that you would look for an engine package that avoided both of those as much as possible. If you could save 10 grand or so that would seem to be a bonus.

      ps--Is the modified coming along?

      pps--There was a #53 late model that looked a lot like your paint scheme @ Showtime. Any story there...?

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      • #18
        I don't believe anybody's would've willing to restrict their motor they have 15 20 thousand in to even the playin field . if your going to that why spend money to build a motor like that run a crate . And as far as crates being cheated someone can buy there motor. look what happen to Patrick last week he won someone bought his motor . Who would spend money to cheat a crate motor up to risk having it bought for the price of a new crate motor it would be pretty stupid .

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        • #19
          Get rid of those little tire modifieds, make a crate motor tour mod class. Run the same engines as the pro late models, they are hard to cheat very much. Then if the local cars want to run speedweeks they just change the motor to a tour motor, bring back the big World Series tour mod races and make a class that people enjoy all in one shot.

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          • #20
            MJM--That is a "big swing at it", but I have no problems with any of that...

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            • #21
              Old school

              Originally posted by OldSchool+ View Post
              Doug,

              A question: Would you rather add weight or add a plate?

              Regardless, it would seem that you would look for an engine package that avoided both of those as much as possible. If you could save 10 grand or so that would seem to be a bonus.

              ps--Is the modified coming along?

              pps--There was a #53 late model that looked a lot like your paint scheme @ Showtime. Any story there...?
              The modified is close. I was actually welding in bars when i got a call to go help on Saturday. He wasnt feeling well so i ended up driving it.

              Funny thing is that i have been asked about that 53 Late Model before......sharp car..no affiliation lol

              Im hoping to make the july 16th race at Citrus with a mod
              Doug Miller # 53

              2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
              2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
              2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
              2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
              2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shorttrackcar1 View Post
                I don't believe anybody's would've willing to restrict their motor they have 15 20 thousand in to even the playin field . if your going to that why spend money to build a motor like that run a crate . And as far as crates being cheated someone can buy there motor. look what happen to Patrick last week he won someone bought his motor . Who would spend money to cheat a crate motor up to risk having it bought for the price of a new crate motor it would be pretty stupid .
                And thats why they will continue to run their 3 or 4 car pony show. dont ask them.mandate the rule for the good of the class. or something similar.

                Claimer rule is a different deal all together........that keeps from wanting to cheat up a motor that you could lose. That must be a NSS rule difference because we dont claim motors over here. Or at least not that I know of ..lol.

                Heres a question........someone stated that two NSS cars were at Bronson Saturday. What is crank height rule at Bronson ? Unless it has been recently changed it is 10" at NSS............One inch lower than any other in the state. Were those two cars legal ? or did they move the motors up ?

                My point is not to say that any of that is an issue and Ricky stated hes trying to uniform the rules . I believe him but he is only one man. But the point is that instead of changing a class or splitting a class why not make it appealing to all the cars in the state to want to pull to your track.

                I have to be honest..I do like the idea of a crate class but i dont think its the answer. I think it would be awesome for no one to have a mechanical advantage and leave it up to the same adjustments everyone has and the man behind the wheel. Kinda like IROC

                Same rules........same tires..........equal payouts....cars will come. oh and by the way we aint nascar the only reason that they spend that kind of money on an engine is because they are allowed to.
                Doug Miller # 53

                2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by shorttrackcar1 View Post
                  Yea the one your talking about winning so much had a built motor I always hope someone would put the money up and tear his motor down every nut and bolt guarantee you he wouldn't of been legal . Thats why the class should have been crate only no built motors . But hey everything seams to working great right I was so glad I didn't waste my money this past week almost went there .
                  No the one I was talking about had a create motor. It still bowls down to knowledge and talent.

                  All I know is I don't miss the crying that goes on. I'll keep going offshore fishing and enjoying the boat.

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                  • #24
                    Man

                    Originally posted by modracer22 View Post
                    No the one I was talking about had a create motor. It still bowls down to knowledge and talent.

                    All I know is I don't miss the crying that goes on. I'll keep going offshore fishing and enjoying the boat.
                    I love fishing............actually all i did until the age of 33 when i bumped my head and went racing. lol
                    Doug Miller # 53

                    2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                    2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                    2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                    2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                    2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                    • #25
                      cody blair won 14 races the first yearof e mod with a stock crate 602

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                      • #26
                        As you all know we have sold the Modified but we still have the NSS Big Ass motors, They are 20k and 25k each if you want to go fast. One is fresh and the other has 5 races on it at Desoto.
                        May take Progressive SLM motor in trade

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                        • #27
                          wait...what?

                          You cannot make a change or two and run a mod motor in a Late Model?

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                          • #28
                            Doug

                            Originally posted by 8modified View Post
                            As you all know we have sold the Modified but we still have the NSS Big Ass motors, They are 20k and 25k each if you want to go fast. One is fresh and the other has 5 races on it at Desoto.
                            May take Progressive SLM motor in trade
                            Will you be my sponsor ? lol Im gonna miss racing with DJ. hes one that you can count on when running side by side.
                            Doug Miller # 53

                            2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                            2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                            2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                            2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                            2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                            • #29
                              I agree open53 about the 3 pony show . Yea mod22 I forgot about that one . Well at the end of the day I think we all want the same thing to see the tracks survive . The tracks that are struggling really need to be thinking ahead on classes that will bring car counts . Use to be the strictly stock class is where a lot started in racing . And guys and gals moved up from there . If you look at the strictly class today I don't see any of them moving up . So that's the future of racing doesn't look good . I don't know anybody ever showed up at the track with no racing back ground and said oh I think I will race a mod or a super . And drop 50 thousand on a car and Truck and enclosed trailer not counting tools needed and etc . I don't anybody that could do that .

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by shorttrackcar1 View Post
                                You guys need to figure out something with the modifieds . Bronson had more modifieds for their 50 lapper . Face it big motor mods are not working at new Smyrna . You really should think about a E-mod class for next year .
                                I don't think those were E-mods last weekend at Bronson, it was OWM class- Josh Todd won in Anderson's car and I don't think that's an E-mod.

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