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[kendo]

I have had both and still have them well a big motor mod with a 10/18 thousand dollar motor pays 400,00 to win so which mod class do you think is more insane to run.

Both,,,You can run a thunderstock up the road on street tires for $300 to win.

[Frasson118]

The track has stated that they will be working on upping the purse for the Mod class.

[modracer#8]

Both,,,You can run a thunderstock up the road on street tires for $300 to win.

what does it cost to build a thunder stock I honestly know nothing about that class? And as far as them upping the purse that's good I can"t wait to see what it is . on another note I see the gas prices are dropping pretty good. what are the tracks charging for race fuel surely it has drop some ?

[scottgarrity07]

I know how these things go, & this probably simply cannot be done, but...

Is there a mechanical change that could come close to equalizing these motors?

ie--More cam for one and less for another, and maybe thick head gaskets for the big motor cars?

I love the mods. One big field with a decent motor is good for me.

And here's another keg-o-nails--Back in the day claimer motors ran/sounded good, better than an e-mod in my memory (which, as always, is suspect...).

We probably don't need all the claimer drama, but surely those motors were built on a budget. Seems like it could be done again.

Waaay too much disparity between the OWM and E Mod motors to even 'em up (without disenfranchising the open mod guys). I always hate to see a class eliminated but a better option for the E Mod guys would be to simply add fenders and lead and run as Sportsman.

[modracer#8]

Scott that's what some guys will do since they already have a crate motor they will move to sportsman or super stock they will be more likely to do that verse trying to build a completive open motor for a mod. the biggest challenge will be selling there rolling mod chassis . and then buying a sportsman or super stock to put there crate motor in . my cousin was trying to sell his super stock up until yesterday now he will be putting his crate motor back in it out of his e-mod.

[scottgarrity07]

I think I oversimplified it but a E Mod could be made into a good Sportsman. Hang a body, move motor forward, buy a longer driveshaft and a 4 bbl, add some lead and redo the setup and you're there.

[openwm53]

Just want to add

I agree with mod 8......most all of us do not race to make money. We race because we love it. the car counts at showtime and Desoto have been very respectable ? why ? They are paying us what we deserve!!!! At citrus just 2 years ago we made 650 for a win.......Saturday night I was paid 500 for 3rd. Most of Showtimes races are a thousand to win with good pay through the field and Desoto is following suit. Its hard to drag a car from Pinellas to N.S. or even Orlando for that little of money crate motor or not. JMO

[kendo]

I agree with mod 8......most all of us do not race to make money. We race because we love it. JMO

Every time the topic of purses come up,there will always be those that chime in and say they don't race for the money.

The simple fact is that if the track increases the purse,more cars/crew members will attend.Do it weekly and the track will have a better show and attract more fans.Amazing how this seems to be rocket science for asphalt track owners/promotors

Every time NSS raised the purse for the mods,they had a full field of cars.
Every time NSS raised the purse for the sportsman,they had a full field of cars.
Every time NSS raised the purse for the superstocks,they had a full field of cars.
Heck,when someone put up $150 to win for the strictly stocks,they went from 3 to 11 cars (and fans stayed to watch it,amazing isn't it?)

[OldSchool+]

Scott (or anyone else that cares to add),

1) Is the typical Sportsman "crate engine" the same as the e-mod engine?

If so, that is a curious thing, as those sounded great at Auburndale and the e-mods at New Smyrna & bithlo...sound different. Is it simply a 4 barrel carb instead of a 2 barrel?

2) Are "closed fenders" one of the Sportsman rules? If not...two driveshafts and two sets of motor mount frame tabs, and... it would freak them out to have the same car line up for two features!

[modracer#8]

kendo I agree with you. how much do you think they will need to raise it to get more cars to come out and keep them coming out ? or maybe they should have tried something crazy like taking the e-mod class raising that purse since it is cheaper for the drivers to run the e- mod class and see if they could get more people interested in the class and grow it .instead they raised the purse on a class that already cost a lot to run and is out of the reach of most people to race because of the cost in a motor. it has know bearing on the tracks what it cost the racers for their cars/motors we all pay the same to get in even the strictly stocks who raced for nothing .

[modracer#8]

oldschool the e-mods and super stock went off the same motor rule. I think the sportsman ran a different carb but it is the same motor . someone correct me if I am wrong .

[scottgarrity07]

oldschool the e-mods and super stock went off the same motor rule. I think the sportsman ran a different carb but it is the same motor . someone correct me if I am wrong .

You are correct, sir.

[Matt Albee]

It might be that e-mods just aren't very popular with the fans. And that's the part that gets missed in all of these discussions. Fans aren't interested in pure stocks by a different name. Especially when they have the real thing to compare to. The real OWMs sound better, are much faster, and put on better races.
Bigger payouts are always going to bring out more cars, and eventually more fans. That's pretty much a given. I'm sure the race gas prices might be falling. Of course it really doesn't make much difference what the price is because many tracks like Showtime force you to buy it anyway.

[OldSchool+]

Matt,

Agree on the modified thoughts, & the payout thoughts.

Re: Showtime/racefuel--One does need to buy the stuff somewhere, but there are other places to tow on Saturday night.

Is the Showtime gasoline higher than other tracks?

[bruce93]

Oss

I called my self to find out if the emods were done and was told they were done cause they had 7 to 8 cars and only 4 were competive I thought that was the wrong thing to say cause I was there when the cars started and there was two of us racing and each week the car count got better I ended up winnig my first points champion ship in the emods now my car is almost done now I have no where to run it cause I don't have money falling out my butt to spend 20 thousand on a motor I have almost every class and have the most fun running my emod