NSS & OSW NASCAR Sanctioned

[kletus]

Brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT A GREAT IDEA, GO TO THE MEETING BEFORE POSTING SMACK ON THE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darren]

just think. if people didn't post smack on the internet, then messages boards would be boring and would most likely go away.

[dd38]

If they go back to Fridays, they just as well be ready for empty stands again. I live 11 miles from the track and it takes me sometimes 45 minutes plus just to get to SR419.

[scottgarrity07]

From what I remember, NASCAR has a rule that prevents NASCAR sanctioned tracks within 100 miles of one another from running on the same night. That could force a move for Orlando back to Friday nights.

[Jimmy McKinley]

WHAT A GREAT IDEA, GO TO THE MEETING BEFORE POSTING SMACK ON THE INTERNET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who posted any "smack"?

[Frasson118]

Scott... not trying to start anything, as you very well may be right on that rule... and maybe this is just the other side of the coin. I thought the rule (at least the one I'm thinking of) is that you can't run an "independent" track that's within 100 miles of a Nascar track on the same night (assuming the Nascar track is running that night).

The only conflict with this, as far as I can see, is if someone wanted to run at Auburndale some nights (within 100 miles of OSW), on the same night as an OSW show... they would be disqualified for Nascar points and awards. All other Asphalt tracks are more than 100 miles from either track.

[scottgarrity07]

As with you, not trying to start anything and no disrespect but........I don't see how NASCAR could mandate anything with an "independent" track. The only reason I mention the 100 mile thing is I've heard it mentioned by officials in New England. And I remember that all the NASCAR sanctioned tracks up there didn't run the same night. Thompson ran Sundays, then switched to Thursdays, Stafford Fridays and Waterford and Riverside Park on Saturdays but they were over 100 miles apart so that was ok. I may be wrong, but that's how it went. Now I don't know if that's 100% true or even if the two tracks within the 100 miles can mutually agree to "opt out" on that either but I hope the latter is true because I think Speedworld could do better on Saturday nights. This rule would only pertain to New Smyrna since they would be the only other NASCAR sanctioned track within 100 miles of OSW.

[victory10]

I just moved down here from michigan and have raced or been involved in racing for many years. I was at New Smyrna this past weekend watching as my car is not done yet & I am kinda checking places out to figure out where I wanna run. When they made that announcement, it made a huge impact on me personally as far as where I would like to race. The insurance is incredible, the money they pay back for points finishes is awesome & alot of times more then what the track itself pays or offers & its an added check each year. Also it gives drivers an additional source to speak with or whatever if needed. Coming from a member for many years, it is well worth the money & a definate good thing for sure.

A friend of mine had a super bad crash, destroyed the car, front to back and was also injured and the bill was out of the roof...again, he never heard a word as the bill was taken care of by the insurance he had through being a nascar member. as for the racing side, I won a championship at a nascar santioned track in Michigan and received points money the track advertised and then recieved both a check for my championship from nascar but an additonal check for being in the top 5 in the nation for the charger division back then. of the championships I have won, the amount of money I recieved at the nascar sanctioned track equalled adding all of my others together.

As just a member, for crew people or anyone who is at the track, the insurance is the exact same. had a guy get hit by a car one night & his leg was broken and he never got a bill either as the insurance covered it.

I am NOT a fan of nascar as far as thier sprint cup, nationwide, truck operations & think they have killed what racing is all about with me being old school. I also get aggrivated with them several times on things they do & almost never even watch a race anymore because of it BUT, the insurance they offer for everyone & the money they put into points funds is excellent. I can honestly say, if you join and run an entire season somewhere, you will make your membership fee back with the check they send at season end.

[victory10]

as for the having 2 tracks santioned racing on the same night, its not the issue of having 2 tracks running the same night but more about location as they try to not have 2 tracks close to one another under the sanction. for anyone who would want a shot at a national title, having 2 tracks sanctioned and running on different nights is a huge benefit. Its hard to do that if you cant run 30 points events a year. we only had one track in michigan total and it was impossible to win the national deal with only 20 events per year and then the rain outs so guys were lucky to run 12-14 events total & there was no chance to have enough points to beat a guy who run 40 events in california for example.

[meangreen]

They could run programs at both tracks on the same night by running different divisions at each track. For example: run Super Lates, Sportsman, and Minis at one track while Limited Lates, Prostocks and Mods run the other. Then the next week trade places. Just a thought...

[Bigbuck]

From what I remember, NASCAR has a rule that prevents NASCAR sanctioned tracks within 100 miles of one another from running on the same night. That could force a move for Orlando back to Friday nights.

kind of elementary to me.
Back when the two tracks had racers and crows, LOTS of guys raced orlando fri and NSS Sat. Also I don't completely agree the lack of crowds at OSW is due to the traffic. There are drivers who will take a day off from work and have a yard sale to pay for their racing. So it takes an extra half hr. to get there Fri. night? Not the problem. Its about the show, no show, no fans, no fans no cars. No change nothing gets better. They even started having toilet paper in the rest rooms, some times and the fans still didn't come.

[UREZ2PASS]

OSW lost fans because the racing got boring years ago. Improve the show and the fans will come. Proof is Crash-a-Rama at OSW, there is usually standing room only because there is an exciting show.

The only way an asphalt track can be exciting to watch is with a lot of racecars on the track. Anything less than 12 cars in a race is boring.

Going to Saturday night is the only way build car counts in my opinion. It has been proven that Fridays are not working.

Lower tire and fuel cost to attract cars and raise the purses. In my opinion, this will get cars to the track and a Saturday show will also draw in more cars that are not local.

Align rules with other tracks ! Don't play follow the leader with NSS. Be the leader !

[amfchassis]

From what I'm hearing, both tracks aren't gonna benefit from this as far as the racers go! It's gonna be the same ole boring saturday night shows!!! Considering they aren't allowed to bring in the FUPS Latemodels, Modifieds, Trucks or Sportsman series!!! As a matter of fact last I saw they aren't allowed to run any non nascar sanctioned series at either track!!! Now how does that support the local short tracks, racers, and fans?? Help cause i'm not understanding it!!!

[Jimmy McKinley]

In my opinion, this will get cars to the track and a Saturday show will also draw in more cars that are not local.

I'm not quite sure I follow this logic. Cars that "are not local" are probably already running at one of the other Saturday-night tracks - Auburndale, Showtime, Inverness, DeSoto, etc. Orlando *was* unique in that it *was* THE only Friday-night track; might not have drawn in the fans and race cars, but it was still the only place to run on Fridays.

Remember years ago? Palm Beach on Friday, Hialeah on Saturday.

When Bradenton first opened, it was a Friday-night joint; then it was on St. Pete on Saturday.

When Tampa (Golden Gate) reopened, it was a Friday-night place; then to St. Pete on Saturday. Bradenton then went to Saturday nights.

After Tampa closed again in '83, Inverness went to Friday nights, and then again, back down to Sunshine on Saturdays.

Nowadays, it seems every track thinks they *have* to run on Saturday nights. Up here, we have a zillion different race tracks, and they (just about) all run on Saturdays. But, they all draw cars *and* fans. How do they make it work? They all have similar divisions - with similar rules. Cars are able to travel to different tracks if they so choose. Only one "touring" series in the state that I'm aware of, but they also run in Michigan and Indiana. The tracks don't all run "their own" set of rules, keeping cars and drivers at one track.

Seems to work up here.

[modracer22]

I think Saturday night is best for Orlando and getting the track back on it's feet and if that means working it out with NSS then that is what I would do but it isn't my money. It's just tough to make it there on Friday night for a lot of people that would come more often if racing was on Saturday nights that I've talked to. When the question was asked by show of hands which night to run Saturday came out on top. Then the question was asked who would race Orlando on Friday the Saturday at NSS and I might of seen 6 hands raised. For the most part in the upper classes there is only a hand full of teams that can afford to race back to back nights.
I do wish Ozzy and Orlando the best of luck on which ever night he decides to run. I think he is in this for the long haul and made the statement that he would do what was best for the track. I think he can turn Orlando around.