Very long but very interesting! Fact or Fiction?

[Frasson118]

I'm not buying the "Airport wants the Speedway for themselves" theory. That's not the business they are in, nor would they want to be.

This sounds more like PGS wants the Airport Authority to pay for the land improvements. With most leases, they will ALLOW improvements to the property, but you can't take those improvements when you leave. For example, if the place had a dirt driveway, they will let YOU pave it, but you can't dig up the pavement when you leave. They are under NO obligation to pave it if it wasn't part of the original (or amended) lease agreement. The "broken septic tank" comparison doesn't apply at all.

My question is this: How much is left on the lease term? I would approach the "landlord" with this proposal..... "I will NOT extend my lease until the parking issue is solved. This does take time to do, and it would be prudent of you, as the land owners, to make these improvements now, so there won't be an un-used, un-leased Speedway when it IS time to renew the lease".

You CAN'T force them into improving your piece of leased land at this point... you signed the lease as it was. You probably could sue them with the contention that putting in that road impedes your business from operating at a profit..... but in this case, youre up against both the Airport & the local Government. Good Luck with that.

I think your best bet is to leverage your FUTURE lease signings, against their willingness to make the improvements needed to run this property as a racetrack.

[mcole]

They could have people park across the street where the old Piper road is and walk across.. i know that doesnt help the fact that there parking lot is flooded but they could still open that way. I dont understand why the airport hasn't built a parking lot after all these years?! I mean it doesn't have to be a nice beautiful paved lot just give us some shell/dirt and we can make due!!

[mcole]

They could even have people parking next to the SE trucking company.. there is a paved road that runs next to it and a shit load of people were parked there for a air show! Then they could shuttle people over to the track cause its not far at all. If there's a will there's a way!!

[DeucesWild]

The problem is plain and simple. PGS has a water drainage issue. The airport authority is responsible for that problem to be fixed. The port authority is fighting to keep from bankruptcy with airlines pulling out and the economy the way it is. Therefore they are not going to spend a dime in fixing a field drainage problem that would cost them thousands and thousands of dollars to get engineered and permitted. I am sure they would not care if PGS went ahead and did it on their own but it would have to be done the correct and proper way. PGS can not afford to do this and nor should they so it becomes a real problem. The port authority's answer to this is from what I have heard is you guys are just going to have to wait until it dries up and the rain stops. That does not help the PGS cause at all in paying bills that come in every month whether they are open or not. Kevin is in a real tough spot here and hopefully something can be resolved between PGS and the port authority to keep moving forward in the positive manner that they have been. This year has been a very wet year. The past years have not been such a problem around the track. The new road with the weather has just compounded everything into a big mess. Just remember people when you go in front of the port authority you catch more flies with sugar then salt!

[carolwicks]

Finally...

someone speaks with some common sense and pretty accurate facts. and you are 1000% right about the way the board should be respected. They wont even listen to nasty ppl. all we are trying to do would be in vain. Thank you whoever you are. ;-) I dont know what we can do if anything but i would not feel good about myself if i didnt at least try. The ppl at PGS are "family"

Carol

[UREZ2PASS]

someone speaks with some common sense and pretty accurate facts. and you are 1000% right about the way the board should be respected. They wont even listen to nasty ppl. all we are trying to do would be in vain. Thank you whoever you are. ;-) I dont know what we can do if anything but i would not feel good about myself if i didnt at least try. The ppl at PGS are "family"

Carol

Yea, all us stupid people should not have answered with our suggestions because they were not factual and presented no common sence. I'm so sensitive these days, LOL !

[Jessica33]

I dont think Carol meant to insult you guys but Deuces is correct.

I like the shuttle idea and I will bring that up to Kevin and Terry. It could be a temporary fix until they get the parking fixed. There is a commissioner that comes to the track often and loves it so we are completely on our own.

[blwn93lx]

Something else most people don't realize, as of last year the airport authority has spent well over 3.5 million dollars trying to make the airport enticing for the big airline company's, which one of them just went bankrupt and closed down owing thousands of dollars in unpaid fuel bills and they just built a 2 million dollar communication tower, which was shortly hit by lighting after being built and had to replace all the new electronics, added on to the terminal for some insane amount of money, paved new runways, was involved with all the new roads, which i know some business were shutdown because they eminent domained all the land if they would not move,....... That's just the tip of the iceberg! the airport does not care about.the track due to future parking if and when the airport grows to a larger size, oh and ibforgot all the money invested went done the drain...... They Don't Care! Which they should! My grandfather raced here, my father has raced here. I have been going there for over 27 years now, since I was in my mother's belly, and I have known all of em' on a personal level from Leroy, Ed, Bobby,Kevin and they all were hasseled by the airport and if you truly care about the future.of the Speedway u should voice ur opinion to the airport authority instead of talking about rumors. Stand up for the future of racing instead of complaining about It. Sorry If I hurt your feelings but the truth hurts

[UREZ2PASS]

I dont think Carol meant to insult you guys but Deuces is correct.

The LOL means I'm laughing and not being serious. Carol only insults the weak minds anyway.

[carolwicks]

EZ

I never intentionally "insult" anyone. Sometimes i just dont agree.. i think im allowed that. i try very hard to be polite UNLESS someone puts my back up against the wall to fight. then i am an old lady high on adrenalin! rofllllll i thought some of the post were very positive and helpful. I love PGS and i just want to help keep it. ;-) have a happy day...
Carol

[chevyj31]

good time to buy the land

Sounds like it would be a good time for the track owners to buy the land from the airport, with some additional land for parking. If they are that broke (the airport) they may take an offer. As far as that ever becoming a big airport, I do not believe that could ever happen, Ft Myers and Sarasota are just to close. Every promoter that has had that place has had to deal with the other track owners starting rumors that the lease was up, and the airport is going to take it back. They either need to buy the property, or get a 99 year lease, so all this BS can stop. Any time you are renting or leasing property, it is hard to spend a ton of money on it, knowing you will never get it back!!.....Joe