Why is this place a cemetary?

[Frasson118]

It's a shame to see this board so dead.

Why is that?

Did the efforts to clean the place up eventually make it boring? Is there just nothing to talk about? Is it fear of being censored if you say the wrong thing, at the wrong time, to the wrong person?

It seems like the only info on here is essentially a bunch of press releases. No gossip, no heated arguements, no finger pointing, not even John S. reaming out yours truly. No more trivia questions, no Boneman -vs- Demo Ray sparring, no plans to meet at the track to have a beer and a cookout... in short, this all sucks. I wish it were different.

Most of all, I miss the people that used to come here, and haven't been back in a long time. Like them or not, it was always fun to see what some real characters had to say (and some, you needed a translator to figure it out)RSB, Doodewamp, Carol N, Cranky, Ocalaisback3, Ford6, Nodos3, Ron Abney, Owen, Beeve44.......... at one time or another, I wound up meeting a LOT of people from Karnac, and some damn fine people they are too. ALL of them GONE.

WHY?

I don't know the answers, just trying to find opinions.

I miss my friends!

[Boneman]

Agreed. Part of my problem is that I made the mistake of noticing how many posts I put up. When I saw I was "almost" the biggest of the big mouths, I made a point to slow down. I know, it shouldn't matter....

Everything goes in cycles. This board will come roaring back one day.

Tell DonH that the TBARA should take the wings off and run street tires, then stand back.

I know how to get nodos03 back in your face: imply that her husband can't drive or build a car! Oh yeah, that will fire her up!

Tell Ford6 that some speedway is looking for a flagman that can't spell. He'll return for sure.

As for Demo Ray, I know for a fact that he just got a new "demo motor" from Smokin' Joe, so I'd be interested to hear the plan for that.

I contend that truely one of the most colorful, authentic characters that I have met here is none other than Smokin' Joe 111. He rebuilds demo cars, believe it or not, from the bottom up. Go say hi to Joe sometime. He is a throw-back to the early days of racing, and I mean that as a compliment.

He is just lucky I junked MY demo car.

[JackTripper]

Personally I think the racing has just gone downhill around the state, at least from the touring series aspect of it so nobody is really coming on to say anything.

I used to be very passionate about the Sunbelt series, but now I think it's on it's way to becoming irrelevant, if it's not there already.

The TBARA series is also in a state of flux, another series near and dear to my heart. Hard to get excited when some are getting away with not playing by the rules that the members all agreed to.

I wish the Extreme Modifieds would take off so I could have a new series to get more excited about.

That's just my take on it, not sure if that's why others aren't hanging about too much.

[ancrdave]

We have all gone to the store and found that one of our favorite products is now "new and improved"... However, because it isn't what we're used to, we quit buying it... That's what has happened here. I have personally talked to two OSW drivers who used to post on KARNAC pretty regularly who just don't like this board... they tell me it's difficult to use... It isn't, really, but you have to realize that a good percentage of people out there aren't as computer savvy as some of us are... There are guys out there that can take an engine apart and put it back together again blindfolded who don't have a clue how to get on the internet... The old board was like Wal-Mart, everything was under one roof... This one is like a mall with lots of stores all catering to one thing... Now, I'm not a huge fan of Wal-Mart, but I HATE Malls.. There are areas on here that haven't had a post in over a month... some have never seen a post... A lot of us have fun here, or at least try to, but many of our old compadres just don't like it and we've lost them...

[Winger]

Yeah, I agree with what everyone above has said. I have gotten use to this board but I still liked the old one better. I agree it's like a mall and I hate malls. I occasionally visit some of the other "stores" but I pretty much stay here and on the comedy boards. And one other thing. so much has been said before with no changes that I just don't comment on it anymore. However, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I see some tracks/series are starting to invert and that will improve the racing. That may bring a few back. One very bright spot is the resurgence of dirt. Ocala going dirt is a boon and the NLMCS races have been good so far. I've noticed over the years that dirt fans don't seem to post on this board so that may not help. Anyway, I agree with you Jerry. This site has become dead recently.

[Joe]

I think it's the whole No Flames thing, whatever that means. The best part about the old board was the constant fighting, nothing out of hand, but just a good argument. Where the hell is MStaggs to tell me how great his son is?

[Boneman]

One of the more interesting and controversial posters was Orlando Graphix, who is now known as "the voice of NSS". I suspect that his new job as announcer may have come with instructions to "stay off that damn board", but I don't know this for sure.

Mark, you know what that means....make up another identity!

[1wildfastgirl24]

I've noticed over the years that dirt fans don't seem to post on this board so that may not help. Anyway, I agree with you Jerry. This site has become dead recently.

What about me, we are dirt track people

[billy badd]

F118, you are right. This board is dead. I tried to get some responses about the sprint races this weekend, and all I got was one repeat reply from Ocala Speedway. No hype, rumors or lies, and most of all, NO other responses. The old board would have been going wild. Also, why does my puter chirp when I'm on this site. Come on KARNAC, get rid of the birds. No, I'm not on here near as much as I was on the other board, mainly because I really don't care for this one. Guess I'm not for change. billy

[Winger]

What about me, we are dirt track people

hehe, sorry Denise. I was generalizing. I'm dirt track people too. Just an observation that the majority of posters on this board have been asphalt racers/fans while I believe the majority of short track race fans across the country are dirt fans.

[1wildfastgirl24]

hehe, sorry Denise. I was generalizing. I'm dirt track people too. Just an observation that the majority of posters on this board have been asphalt racers/fans while I believe the majority of short track race fans across the country are dirt fans.

I know I was just messin with ya ,Your right..... a majority of short track race fans across the country are dirt fans and growing more everyday ....we used to race asphalt then decided to try the dirt track one time and basically been there ever since, hubby says as a driver its alot more challenging and fun,We do have a few friends that race asphalt tracks and we go and watch them every now & then when we get the chance.

[SeminoleWind]

I have to admit, I kinda like the old board a little better. This one has some good features, but sometimes simpler is better.
As far as the racing scene, asphalt just does'nt seem to have any established stars anymore. The late model ranks are heavily populated by teenagers, some (or most) never came up through the ranks. So, they are here today and in 2 years when either they figure they won't be going to Cup racing, or their family is broke, they're gone from the scene. The veteran asphalt drivers are hired by the kid's well heeled dads to coach them. It does'nt take Einstein to figure out there is a lot more money in helping rich people chase their dreams than staying poor chasing your own dream.
As far as dirt, tons of cars, common rules and pretty good racing, but the shows are usually horrendous (at least here in Georgia). If the show starts an hour late, hot laps and time trials are next, by 2a.m. the late model feature is lining up and no one is still in the grandstands to witness it.
I do have to respectfully disagree with Frasson 118 on one thing. Simply by turning an asphalt track into a dirt track is not the ultimate answer to solving short track racing's problems. A badly run asphalt track that turns to dirt just becomes a badly run dirt track.

Kevin Shaw

[RSB]

Jerry, I haven't been to a race in quite awhile. I did go to opening night at Ocala and looked for you. Lost my cell phone and your number with it. I took some time off because I don't have a decent shop to work in plus I'm gettin' old.... golf game has improved although I only get to play about four times a week! Call me sometime if you still have my number. JMitch

[OLD STYLE RACER 2]

Part of the problem could be with the people who run this board. Every time I post, mine has to go thru a moderator. I'm lucky if it pops up within 12 hours. I even sent them a PM asking why and got a response back in 3 days asking for more information. As soon as I got it, I sent them another PM back. This Saturday will mark 2 weeks since and still no reply from anyone. I would just like to know what I did to have to be moderated. I don't have this problem with any other site I visit.
To get back to my point, If this board treats other posters like I've been treated, I can understand why this place has been turned into a cemetary!
For the record, It is Thurs. night 4/10/08 at 9:38 PM. I'm curious to see when this one shows up.

[Benny The Mule]

hehe, sorry Denise. I was generalizing. I'm dirt track people too. Just an observation that the majority of posters on this board have been asphalt racers/fans while I believe the majority of short track race fans across the country are dirt fans.

You crazy as hell........14% are asphalt fans, 16% are dirt fans, 12.75% are drag racing fans, 22% are drifting fans, and 35.25% are freak show crash o mega bomber rama drag billy goats backward while juggling.........get my drift. Ha Ha (drift) i made a funny.