Auburndale 5/21/11

[9498clay]

it not rex's fault a dumbass official waved him into traffic

[Tim]

Dave from what I've seen here, it didnt happen in turn 4....

[Tim]

Bullshit!....this is Rex's to work out, firing the incompetent employee is only the first of many corrective actions that has to take place to make this right. The buck stops with Rex, as it does with every other track owner....

[Edm]

Bullshit!....this is Rex's to work out, firing the incompetent employee is only the first of many corrective actions that has to take place to make this right. The buck stops with Rex, as it does with every other track owner....

For some reason I think Rex doesn't need to fire this guy. I honestly cannot see him showing his face around the race track again.

This should be a reminder to EVERY OFFICIAL AT EVERY TRACK on just how important their jobs are.

[judge357]

Sad but true Clay, in this country a business owner is ultimately responsible for the decision made by his employees. They should all be well trained and dependable. Tim is correct on this one. That flagman may indeed be a so called dumb---. That may be determined in court but someone is ultimately responsible and in this case it is clearly not the drivers. When you go to a track you do so with the logical understanding that cars will not be waved out in front of you by track employees. This is not a normal occurence and definitely not an assumed risk on any of the drivers part. Therefore there is come accountability and responsibility on the track's part.

[dave41]

sorry

if he had them coming on in turn 3 ,then i am wrong . so sorry. dave41

[MW68SS]

I don't understand why this gate was being used as an entrance point anyways. For years this has been an exit only gate due to the fact the driver is at the complete mercy of the flagman. In the turn 4 entrance the driver can see the track way before he has to worry about where the traffic is and can decide if he wants to go or not. This was a stupid move by the flagman for even letting the driver enter the track from that gate to begin with.

[Iwyn]

Get over it !

And what would have been the results if lightning struck one of the track light poles or another race car hit it during a race and it fell across the track in front of oncoming race cars at speed ? The same result ! I have seen plenty of you complaining here do some stupid dumbass type of things on the track causing others 100's - 1000's of dollars in repairs every weekend. I do not know of any of you that ever stepped up to pay for the dumbass damages you caused when the track allowed you to race so why do you expect the track to pay for what they can not control in this circumstance. GET OVER IT ! Cost of insurances at tracks now are caused by so many wanting to sue for $$$$ when you know walking in a race track is classed as a VERY DANGEROUS place to be on or off of the track ! GET OVER IT and help support the racing and track ! All need to work together to solve these issues and support racing. Those of you that are so smart and never made such dumbass mistakes on or off the tracks should step up and volunteer to replace the flagman. Then you would get a 1st hand view how easy it is to make a simple mistake that does cost many $$$$. If one of you that do not make any mistakes would have been doing that flagging job to help the track then maybe the track would not have to have someone there that may make a mistake at the wrong time ! GET OVER IT ! Trying to find qualified help for ANY JOB that will not make mistakes is impossible. Not even you complainers can do that ! Be part of the solution and not the problem. GET OVER IT !

[timesplitter]

is this guy for real ? the track can and does control what the flagman does . someone (rex) obviously made the stupid decision to use the wrong gate . and the flagman wears a headset following directions from race control (rex) . the flagman answers to and follows orders from rex . get over it ???? easy for this guy (who doesnt have to replace three destroyed racecars ) not so easy for the teams and racers effected by this cluster **** . face facts dude , your hero rex made a huge mistake in judgement at the expense of others who very easily could have been killed or seriously injured by his stupidity . he should pay dearly for this . in more ways than one . first the fast series , now the ups . strike two .

[9498clay]

Rex Should Cut A Check For The Neglagence Of His Employee .... Im Self Employed So I Know How The Actions Of An Employ Affects The Employer...had Rex Been On That Turn Things Would Have Been Differant....its Not His Fault ... Its The Officials!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chakka]

exactly

This guy saying get over it probably dont have a car and know how much it costs to run one these much less repair them. Repairing damaged racecars from racing is just racing but having destroyed cars due to someones bad decisions is very understandable to complain and be mad about. Not saying this flagmen but i have been in the situation at different tracks where some of these guys get a little authority and wish they were racers and they im guessing either out of jealousy or got a little authority start trying to make calls well above their intelligence.(again im not saying this flagmen, i have just seen some do it at various tracks) why/ i was not there would someone be let on the track under green first of all there going to be a lap down and unless they were the fastest car on the track are not going to make the lap up and why in the world would u enter there on the track in the first place u cant see a thing. Is the driver a new to the track and not know the alsmost impossibility of entering the track there under green or did the track tell him to enter there. But back to the top saying get over it is definitely a ridiculous statement. I dont care because Im sure someone will say something about russell having plenty of money, I dont care if hes a billionare they are still racers and they shouldnt or campi get over it because they are racers and still have to fix their cars .

[judge357]

Is Iwyn for real? That mentality will certainly result in better and safer racing. If the mind set of Iwyn is what is running Florida tracks.....good luck to you all. If you run a business, hire employees and take people's money, then you have a certain level of reponsibilty to your customer. I would certainly appreciate the track owner (if indeed that is Rex) to come on this thread and explain what happened and why it happened and what will be done to prevent it in the future. Otherwise we will be left to expect more of the same....especially if we listen to the likes of Iwyn. Can Florida not run their tracks professionally? A little common sense goes a long way.

[9498clay]

Thanks Judge .u Said It All Common Sence Goes Along Way

[realracer88]

owner

i think the owner shud definately open the check book and get a certain amount to the drivers but just so u all kno rex does not own that track his father in law does so rex shudnt have to pay yes he is the one who runs it but his in law owns it

[Tim]

I only read two things in Iwyns ignorant response. Lightning striking a light pole is an act of GOD. The other was the word INSURANCE. More importantly LIABILTY INSURANCE!!! If their paying soo much for coverage don't be afraid to lean back on them.

I think to the racers involved, the gesture to help them recover from this would have gone alot further than an actual check. It was the hide and seek method that pissed them off most.