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  • #16
    Can any shed some light on what the six trucks were dqed for? Had Ricky checked hard the first two nights, would there be any trucks last night?



    I think that Tiresmok has a great point that needs to be answered or at least addressed. “Had Ricky checked hard the first two nights, would there be any trucks last night?”
    The answer is NO!! there would not have been enough trucks to put on a show. But that isn’t why Ricky didn’t tech the trucks the first or second night, the reason is simple if the track would have done there job the first night they would have lost thousands of dollars. How you ask? Let’s do the math. Seventeen trucks started the race Saturday night, the same on Friday night and fourteen on Thursday, that’s an average of sixteen truck teams each night. I think that is more than fair to assume that each team brings in at least five paying people into the pits each night at $35.00 each that’s $2800.00 per night times three nights for a total of $8400.00 Now each team most likely bought four tires, I’m sure most bought more and a few didn’t buy any but the average of four per team is more than fair. The cost per tire is around $ 110.00 times four, times 16 teams for a total of $7040.00 dollars. Now let’s talk about fuel, each team had to use at least 20 gallons of fuel for the three nights and that is probably a low number but you get the point. I’m not sure what the price per gallon is now but the last time I bought fuel it was around eight dollars a gallon so that’s $160.00 per team time’s sixteen teams for a total of $2560.00 dollars. We can’t forget about concessions, as estimated before each team brings in about five people per night times sixteen teams that’s eighty people, if they spend seven dollars each at the concession stand that’s $560.00 per night times three nights for a total of $1680.00 dollars. Now do you understand why Fascar didn’t make Ricky tech the trucks on the first night? I’m sure the track will try and spin this to there advantage but if you look at this objectively there is only one conclusion and that’s $$$$.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Donny Funk View Post
      I want to know how when jason and i got caught with an illegal motor we had to take our motor out and have it took apart surrender the illegal parts since we was told Jason was suspended from fascar til we did yet Rusty yall didnt have to take your motor out an be checked before you could race again then they let yall win the last nite without a chip in your crate car which you was suppose to be following your rules since yall was 2700 an 57 left compared to the rest of the class and in tech they said its the last nite they wasnt doing nothing about not having a chip in the msd so why didnt they tell the trucks the same thing its the last nite how does the rules only apply to a select few since obviously the truck didnt have to surrender their motors either
      Good point, was it because he was there tapping on Rickys shoulder pointing out things wrong with cars that finished in front of him that he has worked on? Its been known to happen in the past.

      Heres my question to you, how jacked up was your motor? Was it a simple fix like Rustys?

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      • #18
        Getting busted in tech in my opinion is one of two things.

        1. Blatant cheating which is nothing more than stealing prize money and racing recognition from others.

        2. Inability to read and understand the rules. That's a nice way to make my point.

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        • #19
          the cam was .10 big an intake had been worked on wasnt our motor was a borrowed motor but as soon as they said we was illegal we had to show the rest of it yes they fixed thiers with washers but that means the heads was cut to much so in that case the heads was illegal or pistons an they checked nothing else of thiers ours sat in the tech room til Dave picked it up to make it right .

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          • #20
            Originally posted by modracer22 View Post
            Not being smart but you can buy the GM seals and seal it yourself if you want to cheat it up.
            They need to be sealed by someone that isnt the builder for that team. Cant believe it would be all that hard for everyone to have their own distinct seals. Hear at one time only one builder could seal them, what if he built it? Not saying its true, just what i heard.

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            • #21
              So lets get this straight...its the tracks fault (conspiracy?) and the tech mans fault that these guys got thrown out on the last night? Oh yeah, and the track dictated to Ricky what he could and couldn't check(he'd have been in Pensacola on Friday if that would have been tried) so that the track could just sponge money out of the racers. Is that really what people think happened??? I want to hear from the guys that got dq'd....what do they think? Cause they all run crate motors and they all saw racers in the crate late model races getting tossed for the same thing...compression! Did they think he wasn't going to check them? You're not going to hear from them cause they knew they were wrong and they were taking the chance he wouldn't check (like every racer would..kudos!).....and when found wrong, they took it like MEN!!!..so why are you arguing it about it now on here?


              And Donny, keep talking! It's just going to end up costing Jason $8K.....just sayin...
              Last edited by Tim; 02-24-2011, 12:25 AM.
              You can educate the ignorant......but you cant fix stupid

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              • #22
                Tim, was anyone "just a little" too high, or did everyone miss it by a mile?

                so why are you arguing it about it now?
                Speaking only for me, I am wondering about next years Series. I am not convinced that mass DQ's and constant tech harrassement is helpful in the big picture. Its got advantages, but it also comes with a cost.
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                • #23
                  Rex, your missing one point here. This is a crate motor...it comes 9.0-9.5. The tolerance is 10.0....would you say that 10.1 is too much. These are "crate" motors that have been taken to motor builders and opened up to the tolerances. I believe .1 is too far in this case. Is it techs fault or the engine builders fault? Is the top 6 getting tossed tech harrassing the racers or the engine builders harrassing tech and tech telling them no more? Just trying to show the other side of this situation.
                  You can educate the ignorant......but you cant fix stupid

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                  • #24
                    Donny, Don't you mean .010? Not .10. .10 is one hundred thousands. Not ten thousands.

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                    • #25
                      Tim, thanks for the specs. I wasn't clear about the numbers and tolerances involved. I remain curious about if they were close to the 10.0/1 or not. Were some 10.1/1? Were others 11.0/1?

                      Please check your pm from me.
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                      • #26
                        hey idiot tim how am i going to cost jason 8 grand how ever if i am i hope u take an iou if u gettn 8 grand from jason we was dq an i said nothing about conspiracy i said rules dont apply to all you moron no i said they let one go on friday nite that wasnt legal by not running the chip then threw 7 trucks out

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                        • #27
                          They are built 9.1 and the rules give them 9.5 to 1 so 9.6to1 would be to much in any ones book. I dont agree with a lot of things that Brooks does but this is black and white. Also i did keep up with speedweek and thouh he was easy on my friend jason and most of the rest. If i were you i would thank him.
                          Don Nerone

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                          • #28
                            8 banks were robed and 7 robbers were cought and one of the 7 said " how about him" DA!!
                            and its Tims falt
                            don62

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                            • #29
                              Are these ZZ4 crate motors? I have a brand new one in my camaro and it is listed from the factory at 10:1 compression.

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                              • #30
                                oh Brooks did a fine job our stuff was wrong however my beef was with letting the crate car go on the last nite he was wrong too and as i stated we had to take our stuff out and check the rest once we got dqed noone else did that got dq for a motor is what my comments was about then idiot tim wanna say sumthing about 8 grand so you know im gonna respond Hi there Mr Don

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