NASCAR Article

[ABYSS64]

Preach On Brother Jimmy!!!

[ancrdave]

Well... if NASCAR wants to run true stock cars right now, they will have to go to 6 cylinder FWD racers... How many V-8 RWD cars are still on the market?
Actually would not be a bad idea and who gives a flip if speeds at, say, Daytona drop from 195 to 165-175... Might attract more of the carmakers to the sport because what's being raced is what's being sold... Think it would be neat to see Nissan, Volvo, Mazda etc. get involved.... Since these are the cars available to the general public, fan interest, especially among younger fans, would go up...
The point deal should be done like this:
43 points for 1st and 1 point for last...
10 bonus points for winning the race, meaning the winner gets 53 points each race...
5 bonus points for setting quick time - not awarded if qualifying is rained out..
5 bonus points for leading the most laps in the race...
2 points for leading a lap during the race...
This system awards winning and being fast rather than "consistency"

[Frasson118]

There needs to be a significant bonus for winning a race. In my opinion, the whole "rewarding consistancy" theory is outdated.

Although I'm not really a Jamie McMurray fan, I thought it sucked that he won at Daytona, Indy and Charlotte, and didn't make it in. Yet every year there are at least 1 or 2 guys IN the Chase that haven't won a damn thing.

If nothing else, I think they should reward any race winner a guaranteed spot in the Chase. There is no incentive for a guy running in the top-5 to go balls out for a win... they would rather settle for an easy 4th, than a hard fought win. They call it "looking at the big picture".

Man, would I have loved to have seen Dale Earnhardt, Kyle Busch, and Ernie Irvan all in the top 3 with 10 to go. Do you think ANY of them would be "thinking big picture"... or would we see 3 guys with dented fenders, bent bumpers, and hot tempers all battling for the WIN?

That is the action the sport needs... not a bunch of wimps just trying to complete all the laps to keep "the big picture" in focus.



I would love to hear a team announce at the beginning of the season... "Screw the Championship. We're out to win, or crash trying, every week"

[mr south 59]

NASCAR has mentioned that in 2011 the chase format will be something like this. The top 10 in points and two drivers outside of the top 10 in points with the most wins.

[Jimmy McKinley]

Was that their OFFICIAL announcement? If it was, I haven't seen anything "official" yet.

The top 10 in points and two drivers outside of the top 10 in points with the most wins.

Here's the problem I see with that.

You got someone like Trevor Bayne running a partial schedule for the Wood Brothers. Just for s***s and giggles, let's say he wins seven of the upmteen races he enters. The rest of the races, he DNF's, and ends up like 39th in the points after race #26.

Then you have Kyle Busch running the full season, who has a *decent* FULL season (well, up to race #26 or whatever it is), wins one or maybe two, has a bunch of top fives and top tens, but the rest of the year, he's either crashed out of the race or has a buncha DNFs due to engine failures or something. He ends up 11th or 12th in the points after race #26.

So you're gonna tell me, that it's really fair for someone in this scenario (Bayne) to get into the Chase with a SHOT at the title, possibly even being the POINT LEADER (with the most wins), even though he's only running a partial schedule, while Busch has to sit on the sidelines (sitting now 13th in points after race #26), while this all goes on? What will the sponsors say? There's NO INCENTIVE after race #26 for *anyone* sitting 13th or worse to even run for any more points positions, just go after wins, but it won't do them any good for improving their final points position.

One more thing. Take these guys BACK TO THE SHORT TRACKS if you want *more racing* and *more action*. North Wilkesboro provided some of the best racing I'd ever seen. Richmond ain't a short track no more; it's a small superspeedway. Really, you only got two (real) short tracks any more - Bristol and Martinsville. And guys these days pretty much ride around until about the last 100 or 50 laps or so. You don't see the kind of *racing* at those places any more like you used to. Remember Earnhardt and Waltrip with a lap and a half to go at Richmond's old track in '86? Earnhardt and (Terry) Labonte on the last lap at Bristol? Waltrip, Allison, and Petty at Wilkesboro back in the mid to late '70s? It just don't happen any more.

[andre]

I would love to hear a team announce at the beginning of the season... "Screw the Championship. We're out to win, or crash trying, every week"


A good starting point would be to remove that 7+ millions $ to the winner of the championship and spread it towards weekly wins awards. At that level of racing is one place where top heavy purse would do good for performance. Standard purse for all races:
Million to win, half mil for second, quarter mil for third, 125 for fourth, 100 for fifth, 85, 75, 65, 55, 50,000 for 10th, and drop that to 10 G to take the green. That would make them pick up the pace and RACE since they(drivers) are all on a %age of the purse.

And only the race winners should be in the chase. Bcuz before you are a champion, you at least have to be a winner. How in hell can you deserve to be a champion without winning??? Explain that one to me!!!! This completely defeat the purpose of the word ''Sport''.

[Don Nerone]

The problem as I see it, is that Nascar got way too big for their own britches. When Corporate money was flowing, they didn't NEED or even want the blue collar fan. Now that they've run us all off, NOW they want us to be THEIR savior.

My first Daytona experience was in 1985 (granted, a long time ago), and it was very reasonable to go. $25 for an infield ticket and $10 for a flat-bed truck to party on top of. Now, there are several parking lots that want twice that amount just to PARK, and then whack us for $100 to get in, $8 beers, $6 Hamburgers... the list goes on and on. Their own greed is what got them in this mess, and now they want us to pull them out of it. Personally, I don't need Nascar.

We didn't forget... but they want us to.

Boy u know i hate to agree with you. Try this my last sit at a NASCAR CUP race and watch was 1985....

I still watch on tv so i am the reason not the soluition.
If you chace the funding of NASCAR and TV the numbers say big busness spend your ad dollar with them. We dont have the numbers.We dont get the money. The car counts can save short track racing and that may help the fan count some.

Try this
If you sold every seat at NSS for $10 you could not pay the power bill at Datona for 1 night!

If you sold every seat leftover at datona speedweeks for$10 You could buy all the pavement track in florida.

If NASCAR cared they would help or buy them.

Don62

[mr south 59]

Jimmy, That is why I said "Nascar mentioned" and "something like this" because when Brian France said this he said they were still working on it. With that being said, Brian France doesn't say this kind of stuff to the media without being pretty sure of what he is saying is going to happen. He said it the same time he said they "may" change the point system this year. That is not official either.

If Kyle Bush, with a full time ride with the same team for years, can't get more win than a rookie in a part time ride for a short season than Kyle don't deserve to be in the chase anyway.

I just glad you pick our good friend Trevor to compare too. Trevor and his dad Rocky were some of our toughest competition for years.

About 4 or 5 years ago when me and Rocky were moving our boys up from karting to supers a ton of people were bashing us. Saying that karting was NO comparison to a super and we were crazy. I wonder what they think now.

[mr south 59]

It's official now. The only adjustment was that you have to be in the top 20 in points to be in the chase.

[Winger]

The "chase" was suppose to save the sport and bring more fans to it. It's suppose to be like a playoff system. The "chase" has turned me off. It doesn't really reward a team for their performance during the whole season. IMO, the champion now isn't the same as the champion was prior to the new format. I like the changes they made to the point system. I just wish they would use the complete season to determine the champion and not just the final 10 races.

[flraceguy]

Thumbs up Winger...