McCain screwed the pooch.

[roundtracker]

Right Wing Radical

Katie Couric tried to make Palin look good. Everytime the woman opens her mouth she makes her self look even more like an absolute moron. I really think McCain hurt himself with this pick and some of his voters will go independent this go round. Palin is as big of a radical nutjob in my eyes as Obama or even Mike Huckabee. Talk about an agenda pushing right wing radical. The woman has hinted that books should be banned from libraries, she believes in absolutely no choice to abortion, even in cases of rape and incest, and among other things watching every interview she does is absolutely painful.

I am one of those. Because that is what the liberal media has made up for us as a title. And you swallowed it hook,line and sinker. How does the kool-aid taste by the way? I guess you probably even use the term homophobic. Another made up word by the media. I am not afraid of the homo's I just don't happen to agree with their lifestyles!


Mainstream America is a right wing radical according to the media. If being a right wing radical means believing in god, family, the sanctity of life, the death penalty, marriage between a man and woman only and the constituion then count me in. I will gladly accept the name of being a right wing radical. I would much rather one of us run the show than the left-wing nutjobs out there!

[AJ14]

Brilliantly stated roundtracker .

[ovalracer44]

Hey Aj, in case you forgot, "YO" this country was founded on christianity.
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America was not founded by or on Christian principles. Most of our forefathers were Deists that realized religion had no place in politics. No where in the constitution is God or christianity mentioned. The preamble sums it up.
In god we trust was put on currency in 1957. Long after the founding of this country.

The Pledge of allegiance was written originally by a baptist minister, and did not include god. 1954 under the influence of Eisenhower, the "under god" was added.

[ovalracer44]

On the other side of the coin, roundtracker made an inference about my political ideologies.

If you look up in the dictionary, conservative what do you find?

Western conservatism and Southern conservatism. I align myself with western conservatism. Western conservatism is for smaller government, lower taxes, less government spending less government interference with personal life and liberty.

Southern conservatism is the bible thumping, think goverment should dictate what people do by the bible. Higher taxes and yes, welfare programs to take care of those less fortunate


The republican ideology originally sided with western conservatism, but since selling out to Pat Buchannon, and Jerry Falwell, they are now more southern conservative.

Religion and its ideologies have no place in government and should have no bearing on the laws of the land.

[Edm]

Hey dickhead, that was a quote from Obama.

[ovalracer44]

Is that all ya got? Gonna have to do better to insult me. Teachers have called me worse.

Im not saying in any of this that by any means am I an Obama fan. I actually detest his policies on spending and government interference. Nor am I saying that McCain is much better. I merely said that he could have made a better Veep choice.

[roundtracker]

On the other side of the coin, roundtracker made an inference about my political ideologies.

If you look up in the dictionary, conservative what do you find?

Western conservatism and Southern conservatism. I align myself with western conservatism. Western conservatism is for smaller government, lower taxes, less government spending less government interference with personal life and liberty.

Southern conservatism is the bible thumping, think goverment should dictate what people do by the bible. Higher taxes and yes, welfare programs to take care of those less fortunate


The republican ideology originally sided with western conservatism, but since selling out to Pat Buchannon, and Jerry Falwell, they are now more southern conservative.

Religion and its ideologies have no place in government and should have no bearing on the laws of the land.

Religion and its ideologies was how our fore fathers came up with the ideas of the law of the land!

It doesn't say any where in the constitution about separation of church and state. It just says in the first ammendment that congress shall make no law respecting religion or establishment of religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion.

Where you come up with southern conservatives as being for more taxes more government and more welfare beats me?

I consider my self a very southern conservative and am for none of those things.

As far as your ideologies, I know from reading your other posts that you are not enamored by either candidate. I just feel that you and a lot of others pick up on the liberal media and televisions way of normalizing un normal things. Words such as right wing radical is made up by people that can't win an argument with ideas. So they instantly dismiss what you have to say by calling someone a name!

[Edm]

Is that all ya got? Gonna have to do better to insult me. Teachers have called me worse.e.

You mean like the other night. I cant write that kind of stuff on here.
Lol, I have been called worse by better people.
I fixed the quotations so it more clear.

For the record, it was never proved that George Washington was a deist.
Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were. I dont remember if John Adams was or the others.

[flraceguy]

ok kiddies

Ok kids lets go to our respective corners an come out swinging foamy bats.. it will do way less harm then the politicians do when they open up their mouths.

honestly though, let's get to the point... we need a President who is not afraid of pissing people off... that won't be found unless we elect Jesse Ventura President... ROFLMAO...

one requirement for Presidency should be military service... it seems that military folk have less stupidity in their thought process.. plus military folk are less likely to send us and our children to far and distant places to shoot, kill, and maim other stupid greedy people...

have a great night all..

[ovalracer44]

it seems that military folk have less stupidity in their thought process..

Have you ever lived in Beaufort SC? My house is 3 miles from the gate of Parris Island. The east coast Marine Corps training base and I would seriously beg to differ.

Just about all military personnel I know cant make a decision for themselves to save their lives. Most that can are the type that get out after 1 or 2 terms.

[ocalasp76]

honestly though, let's get to the point... we need a President who is not afraid of pissing people off... that won't be found unless we elect Jesse Ventura President... ROFLMAO... .

I guess that makes 'W' a good President. He has pissed a lot of people off.
But in his defense: He surrounded himself with some incompetent people that he trusted, and they let him down. 9/11 handed him a problem no other President has had. Our own shores under multiple attacks and not prepared for it. Somewhat like Pearl Harbor, but not isolated to some small islands far away like 9/11.

Ovalracer, I am one of those in the military who only stayed 7 years. After a tour of Nam and 3 1/2 years in Germany I became very board with a peace time Army. We were trained to break things and kill people and ended up painting trucks and cleaning barracks. The quality of new troops made us sergeants nothing more than baby-sitters. Not for me at all.

Gotta watch the debate..and may the best woman win..

--JIm----

[Rick Williamson]

America was not founded by or on Christian principles. Most of our forefathers were Deists that realized religion had no place in politics. No where in the constitution is God or christianity mentioned. The preamble sums it up.
In god we trust was put on currency in 1957. Long after the founding of this country.

The Pledge of allegiance was written originally by a baptist minister, and did not include god. 1954 under the influence of Eisenhower, the "under god" was added.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Go back and study American history. And study what some of our fore Fathers said about God and the government. And please learn to spell Christianity right.

[ovalracer44]

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Go back and study American history. And study what some of our fore Fathers said about God and the government. And please learn to spell Christianity right.

If you put your glasses back on you would see that Christianity is spelled right in my post. I do have my history correct.

I am tired of having people try to cram their beliefs down my throat in the form of government regulation.

The founding fathers were smart enough to know that a separation of church and state is necessary. You can hate me, thats fine but do not expect me to feel the same way as you or anyone else.

Just because im not dumb enough to sit in a building for half of a sunday, listen to someone tell me how to live my life, give up 10% of my income and use the Bible to tell someone else how they should live, does not give you the right to talk down to me.

[ovalracer44]

http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/d...ers_quote2.htm

Go ahead and read the quotes.


Now I can get started on the amount of hypocracy in the Christian organization.

70% of Americans identify themselves as Christian.

Now lets look at that. If that was true, walmart would not be open on sunday, there would be no need, no one would be out shopping.

There would not be near as many bars in operation. Not as much drinking.

Drive to your nearest church, watch as people "who dont work on sundays" leave the parking lot of their place or worship, drive down the street, pull into a restaurant, and EXPECT someone to wait on them.

I guess not nearly as many people are drinking the religious Kool-aid because churches are now having to ADVERTISE to get people through the door. many churches are on the brink of closing because of lack of attendance.

[Todd McCreary]

I am certain that McCain has lost the election over his decision.

by nominating McCain, the Republicans tried to sh!4can this election, he's just finishing it off. i'm thinking Constitution Party.





Can we get a new moderator for the veep debate tonight?

George Stephanopoulus qualifies as an "unbiased" news man. you never had a chance in hell that the media would have enough principal to demand a moderator with even the "appearance" of balance.




Bailout vote was yes

Senate only. but i never figured they were going to fight it anyways.

the House rejected the previous bill and will vote on the Senate bill, possibly tomorrow.

if it passes the House, Bush has promised to sign it.

the House, and only the House, is and always has been our only chance to stop this.




So why would he want to hide it .

because, Constitutional right or no, it would make him unelectable. plus taqqiya encourages a Muslim to lie about his faith if he should find it advantageous to do so.

but as i've said before, i don't think he's serious enough about anything to have a "faith" of any kind.



If he cant make up his mind what religion he is, then how is he going to make important decisions in the white house.

he's Marxist, does that answer it for you?




If Mc Cain looses it won't be because of her it will be by the one sided media that has been stroking the obama train and being so one sided.

no, it will be because McCain is a Democrat in everything but party affiliation.

case in point:
there is a House Republican proposal alternative to the bail out bill. McCain won't have anything to do with it.

if he had come out of that meeting last week championing the House Republican proposal he could have slammed Obama as a willing and eager tool of the rich fat cats in NYC and DC. instead, he's indistinguishable from Obama ( just as much of a willing and eager tool of the rich fat cats ) except that the media is trying to blame McCain for Obama blowing up the negotiations.




America was not founded by or on Christian principles.

mmm-mmm, that Kool-Aid tastes mighty fine.

strange how the Founding Father's opened every session of Congress with prayer, and included prayer and or swearing on the Bible in almost every ceremony.





The founding fathers were smart enough to know that a separation of church and state is necessary.

if it's so important, it's strange that they didn't say that in the Constitution.




Go ahead and read the quotes.

yes, almost every single one of them making the point that there should be no official state church.

which, by the bye, i've never seen any Christian request.

and this has what to do with you telling Christians that they are not permitted to voice their opinions in public or vote their conscience or if elected ( presumably by Christians, to represent a Christian perspective ) to enact Constitutional laws based on those beliefs?