Did anyone catch KB's interview

[Todd McCreary]

Kyles best finish in points so far is 5th


don't even go there, Ed.

1 - top 12 points finishes in the Chase era have nothing to do with the prior method of cumulative season points.
2 - how many Hendricks cars have won that championship that were not driven by Gordon or Gordon's driver in the last 15 years? hrm. i think we all know that there are favored teams at Hendricks. otherwise, Mark wouldn't have lost his engineer to Junior this year.
3 - in 2008 Busch had the points LEAD to start the Chase. then he had two consecutive DNF's, one of them caused by a swaybar breaking. you can hardly blame that on the driver.


and you're still trying to distract us: you asserted that Busch wasn't much of a driver. the "evidence" that you presented for this is that he hasn't yet won a Cup championship.

that's a silly metric and you know it. there are a LOT of VERY good drivers who have never won a Cup championship. there are even some very good drivers who have never won a Cup race ( Steve Kinser and Dick Trickle come to mind ).



He also had a streak of finishing inside the top 10 in points for 12 years starting his 3rd FULL season.


interesting counterpoint here: i ran the numbers several years ago. that 12 year streak of Mark's? Earnhardt won three championships during that time ... and Mark had a higher average points finish. Mark was always just this >.< far away from closing the deal.

i don't think anybody would dispute that Martin is likely to go down as the best driver never to win a Cup championship.

i only brought him up to put paid to your "no championships" issue.

[oneoff]

They keep saying how high up on the "Nascar" all time wins list. What a joke, he has 18 Cup wins, that is all. They keep lumping all his minor league wins in with his Cup wins to get his all time wins. Kyle is a very good driver no question about it! He may one day be up in the all time list, but for now he should not be on that list.

[Todd McCreary]

here's one just for Ed:





and just for oneoff:

" Kyle Busch's 18th career Cup victory ties him with 5 other drivers for 37th all time: Geoffrey Bodine, Neil Bonnett, Harry Gant, Matt Kenseth and Dale Earnhardt Jr. Of the 6 drivers, it took Kyle Busch the least amount of starts by far to get to 18 wins:

Geoffrey Bodine: 432
Harry Gant: 404
Matt Kenseth: 330
Dale Earnhardt Jr.: 306
Neil Bonnett: 305
Kyle Busch: 198
Kyle's 34th career Nationwide win puts him 2 back of Kevin Harvick for 2nd all time and 14 behind Mark Martin for the all time lead. He also won his 20th career pole, tying him with Kevin Harvick for 6th all time and putting him 10 back of Mark Martin for 1st.
Kyle's 6th career Truck pole, his 2nd straight in his starts, ties him with Rich Bickle, Rick Crawford and David Reutimann for 11th all time. He also moved into 5th all time in laps led.
Overall Kyle led 492 of the 800 laps run at Dover this weekend, leading at least 100 in each race."






so, there's at least five drivers right there that Kyle is WAY better than. i wonder how many people want to claim that Harry Gant and Neil Bonnett were "no good"?

[Edm]

[I]



i only brought him up to put paid to your "no championships" issue.

You asked if Mark Martin impressed me. I gave you some of his stats over his career which are very impressive. KB doesn't have those kind of stats over his short career. Maybe one day, but until then he is just an arrogant little punk who needs a good ass whooping.

[Todd McCreary]

no comment on the poster i provided for you?

i figured you'd set it up as the background for your computer screen.



You asked if Mark Martin impressed me. I gave you some of his stats over his career which are very impressive. KB doesn't have those kind of stats over his short career.

Mark has a career Cup winning percentage of 5.2&#37;. Kyle is over 9%.

would you rather watch someone who wins or someone who points races?

[Edm]

Mark has a career Cup winning percentage of 5.2%. Kyle is over 9%.

would you rather watch someone who wins or someone who points races?

Hands down I would rather watch someone win but if it meant watching an interview from Kb then I would rather watch points racing.

[oneoff]

Never said that Kyle Bush was "no good". The men that you listed are not the ones that they (the media) are comparing Kyle to, they are comparing him to the greats, that racked up their numbers in the big leagues. Everyone you named will not be in the Hall of Fame with those numbers. My point is that Nascar is the only sport that uses "AA & AAA" numbers added to major league numbers to make a bigger deal out of someone than they really are.
Kyle doesn't need any bogus numbers to be great in cup, if he keeps going at his current rate!

[Bigbuck]

Racing news???

well , so much for getting my house sprayed for termites .

You call spraying for Termites racing news?? Trust me Jeff, I wouldn't TREAT your house for Termites if you wanted to pay triple!!! After the lies you told a friend of mine? Or I should say a person i THOUGHT was a friend of mine. Oh well, another one bought cheap. Now why don't you go tell him I said that!! I'm sure youre on the way now. You liked lieing to him about me, now you can tell him the truth. BOUGHT CHEAP!!

[Bigbuck]

oh Jeff!!

well , i dont even know why i should even bother wasting my time responding to your post . you will just twist it into something other than what i say but we all here on karnac are used to that . first of all i did not tell our mutual friend any lies . sorry to disappoint you on that one . he wanted to know what you wrote on this forum after you promised him you would stop . so i pulled up the pm you sent Todd and the one you sent me and he read them for himself . along with a few others he wanted to see . i just did what the man asked me to do . not my fault you broke your word to him . and YES i suggested that you be banned , why you ask ? so you wouldnt be able to break your promise to him . but you dug that hole for yourself . unfortunatly you have a mind set that everyone is against you . if that was true , why would anyone even bother trying to reason with you ? or speak to you at all ? obviously some of us cared enough to try [like myself and our mutual friend], but as usual you just turned your head away and refused to listen . so , think what you want , enjoy being angry , twist this post into some far fetched story so you can get mad at something new that doesnt exist only in your mind . this is it on this subject , im over it , done . save your breath . find someone else to hate on . i have better things to do than argue with someone over nothing relevent . i come on here for racing news and information , not for the soap opera . leave me out of this insanity please . i want no part of it thank you .

Private pm to you, McQuery or anyone else is NOT on the forum, two face!!!