Carl Edwards: I'm just asking...

[oldyeller]

...not necessarily trying to make a point, but let's say at the next FAST late model race, two drivers are beating and banging, and one -- many laps down -- puts the other in the wall on purpose, and admits it. The car flips and is essentially totalled. The driver who put him in the wall drives backward on the track during caution and heads to the pits.

Adjust this scenario to any local sanctioning body at any track if you want.

What should the series officials do? Anything? Nothing? I'm just asking...

[straight up]

depends on which one is the rich daddy track pet .

[cfontfan]

funny question since the next FAST race is at the "toilet bowl" in Auburndale. Im sure something pretty close to this situation will happen... lol

[Jane]

Rightfully the driver who purposely takes out the other driver needs to be suspended for the rest of the year for uncalled for rough driving. I have seen it done and I have heard of drivers being banned from a track because of something very similiar. Would it be done?? Who knows.

But hopefully it would not be just overlooked and nothing done. If nothing else, give the driver a fine to pay and unless it is paid, no racing and take away all points he/she has earned up to that race. And the fine should be at least a $1,000 or more since you have purposely destroyed someone else's dream. And maybe, a formal letter of apology to that driver also.

[Todd McCreary]

Adjust this scenario


one extremely important scenario adjustment that you're leaving out:
Keselowski's already long and well known habit ( including hitting people under caution ) of wrecking the hell out of other drivers. about which NASCAR has done absolutely nothing.

if the sanctioning body is going to refuse to do it's job, the drivers will take care of it. even if it means getting thrown out of the series.

when's the last time NASCAR took a win away from someone for crashing out the race leader on the last lap? has it ever happened?

[clincher47]

If the sanctioning body has spent the offseason announcing that they were returning to their roots and that the drivers could bang fenders and police their own problems, then they should do just what Nascar did: nothing.

[egspeedway]

I agree fully with Todd.He has been a bull in a china shop since he moved up to the Cup series. The best we can hope for out of all this is that Brad got a message as well.

[Old Sunshine Fan]

The best we can hope for out of all this is that Brad got a message as well.

Well, the kid had "Something" coming for the way he's been driving... if he didn't get the message this time, he better watch out... there's 41 other drivers he needs to watch out for (and after 3 weeks, that number goes back up to 42 drivers).
I don't want to see anyone turn someone at 195 mph... as Carl found out, they don't always slide left and into the infield. But there are other times drivers can give him a lesson or two...perhaps change the number of teeth he's presently got in his mouth.

[Bigbuck]

The only thing wrong:

1/ Considering Kes has done it to others
2/ NASCAR told the drivers to handle it on their own
3/ I'm a Carl Edwards fan, so obviously I think it was great, Kes needs to learn. Not to say I do not like him. And yes, admit it or not, who you like sways your opinion on this.
All things considered Kes should of been put on probation also. The messege sent was "Kes You did o'k running over everyone, and Carl you didnt." also, "Kes you can do the same next week"

Oh yes Straight Up, It DOES depend on if either were the rich Daddy type at the local tracks, everyone knows that.

Oh, as far as "Edwards should of waited till Bristol", you tell me. If you were Edwards and decide you're getting even, right or wrong, and 50 laps down, nothing to lose, are you doin it then or wait for Bristol when you're on the lead lap with lots to lose. Me?? NOW! Again i'm not saying right or wrong.

[Bigbuck]

sounds good Jane

Rightfully the driver who purposely takes out the other driver needs to be suspended for the rest of the year for uncalled for rough driving. I have seen it done and I have heard of drivers being banned from a track because of something very similiar. Would it be done?? Who knows.

But hopefully it would not be just overlooked and nothing done. If nothing else, give the driver a fine to pay and unless it is paid, no racing and take away all points he/she has earned up to that race. And the fine should be at least a $1,000 or more since you have purposely destroyed someone else's dream. And maybe, a formal letter of apology to that driver also.

But the local tracks wont even enforce the rules. All anyone has to do is call and say I have this or that and are told "Its ok to run that" even though the rules say otherwise.

[Jane]

I wish there was a magic wand and someone could wave it and all would be better for everyone but at last, there is not one. Tracks should enforce their rules and they should definitely not overlook rough driving because one day, someone is going to be seriously hurt or dead and you can't take it back then.

Just like everything else in local racing, we can talk about it until the cows come home and not change a thing. Personally, I don't care for rough driving at all and believe that rough drivers should be given some kind of penalty but it isn't up to me or you.

[Bigbuck]

RE: Jane

I wish there was a magic wand and someone could wave it and all would be better for everyone but at last, there is not one. Tracks should enforce their rules and they should definitely not overlook rough driving because one day, someone is going to be seriously hurt or dead and you can't take it back then.

Just like everything else in local racing, we can talk about it until the cows come home and not change a thing. Personally, I don't care for rough driving at all and believe that rough drivers should be given some kind of penalty but it isn't up to me or you.

Jane I agree with you 100%!!

[Todd McCreary]

Tracks should enforce their rules and they should definitely not overlook rough driving because one day, someone is going to be seriously hurt or dead and you can't take it back then.


very few short tracks refuse to flag rough driving. of those who do, they are usually headed into the toilet. as far as i know, NASCAR is the only major series on the planet which has never done so for it's entire history.

oh sure. you can goad NASCAR into giving suspensions ... usually after a 1/2 dozen cars have been destroyed at a 1/2 dozen races. but it has to get to the point where somebody is getting wrecked almost every week before they will step in and do something. NASCAR has always been that way.

that's why it's kind of pointless to ask if we would want this situation handled differently at our home track. at our home track, we would have hoped that Krash-a-wallski would have gotten suspended last year.

[andre]

Rough driving, screaming and yelling, middle finger pointing, helmet throwing, fender bending, paint job and graphic ripping, bumper banging, and and and, Wasn't that part of racing too when race track grandstand were packed solid????? Before short track racing became too ''civilized'' (ŕ la Nascar)!!!!!Maybe a little bit of drama would help....

[Todd McCreary]

speaking of which, i've got a new advertising campaign for NASCAR ( especially if they start revoking press credentials for weenies who cry about Carl not getting suspended ):

"Auto racing is the only form of sport which requires two balls to play.

NASCAR is the only form of auto racing which requires two balls to watch."