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    A lot of talk has been going on about tire soaking causing several drivers to be DQ this week at NSS. It was announced on speed51 radio during the races tonight that no more soak tires will be allowed in any class after speedweeks at NSS.

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    announced on speed51 radio during the races tonight that no more soak tires will be allowed in any class after speedweeks at NSS.


    wait, wut? they allow soaking now?
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    • #3
      Is this Soaking as in Liquid or Price for the tires?

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      • #4
        as i thought, "soaking" the tires is ALREADY illegal by the 2009 FASCAR book. Strictly Stocks is the only class that mentions the specific term "soaking" but even the Super Late Model rules say:
        http://www.newsmyrnaspeedway.org/pdfs/09rules.pdf
        "B. Tires: FASCAR approved tires only. Tires must not be
        altered in any way
        . Tires must be consistent with
        durometer reading from current FASCAR dealer supply.
        "


        somebody should probably ( not? ) inform Ricky Brooks.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Todd McCreary View Post
          as i thought, "soaking" the tires is ALREADY illegal by the 2009 FASCAR book. Strictly Stocks is the only class that mentions the specific term "soaking" but even the Super Late Model rules say:
          http://www.newsmyrnaspeedway.org/pdfs/09rules.pdf
          "B. Tires: FASCAR approved tires only. Tires must not be
          altered in any way
          . Tires must be consistent with
          durometer reading from current FASCAR dealer supply.
          "


          somebody should probably ( not? ) inform Ricky Brooks.


          AS from current dealer suply, maybe they come pre soaked LOL

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          • #6
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            • #7
              Just telling you what was announced by speed51. They were told by Kim Brown. I had always thought that is was not allowed because of what the rule book says. Problem is I have some take offs for my Super Stock and they have been soaked by previous owner.

              How often during the racing season are they really checked?

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              • #8
                Leave it to JIM FENTON.... he puts a great video on here to see the happenings regarding tire soaking at NSS..


                Great video MR. FENTON.

                I can't think of any post my MR. FENTON that wasn't worth reading.
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                • #9
                  Not sure who that is @ 3:27 on the video punching tires.....if tech uses the same procedure, it's wrong.

                  Proper way to durometer a tire is to lay the base of the "plate" of the durometer at an angle on the tire, then "roll" the pin into the tire surface and continue rolling forward back off. Noting the highest duro number.

                  The difference in application WILL provide different results.

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                  • #10
                    I can understand

                    the concerns with cheating, however, I think a bigger concern is, where are the people? It looks like no one in the stands.

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                    • #11
                      soaking?

                      Originally posted by Cara View Post
                      Just telling you what was announced by speed51. They were told by Kim Brown. I had always thought that is was not allowed because of what the rule book says. Problem is I have some take offs for my Super Stock and they have been soaked by previous owner.

                      How often during the racing season are they really checked?
                      How will they know, as long as they pass the softness test?? Just a question.

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                      • #12
                        no soaking

                        Originally posted by Cara View Post
                        Just telling you what was announced by speed51. They were told by Kim Brown. I had always thought that is was not allowed because of what the rule book says. Problem is I have some take offs for my Super Stock and they have been soaked by previous owner.

                        How often during the racing season are they really checked?
                        sounds like they want everyone buying tires every week, like the big money people. same-o-same-o!

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                        • #13
                          La La La La,
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                          I don't take anything written on the internet seriously, neither should you.

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                          • #14
                            Leave it to JIM FENTON.... he puts a great video on here


                            well, it's really Speed51 that put the video up. that is interesting to watch though.

                            it's apparent that Ricky hasn't read the FASCAR rule book that closely. and from Rogers' comment, it's apparent that the rule is ignored by the track and all the competitors.





                            Just telling you what was announced by speed51.



                            i understand. they can only report what they've been told.

                            the fact remains though, the 2009 FASCAR rule book outlaws soaking, trueing, shaving and any other tire modifications you can think of for the SLMs.

                            the specific durometer rule they're talking about isn't even part of any "class" rules. it's item #10 in the general track safety rules.


                            what's really strange is, the soaking actually is legal for Limited LM and ASA LMs and Modifieds:
                            "WHEELS & TIRES
                            A. Wheels: 10" steel racing wheels only.

                            B. Tires: FASCAR APPROVED TIRES ONLY.
                            1. See Track Safety Rules.
                            "

                            Sportsman has the 48 durometer spec in their tire rule so i'm assuming you can soak them.

                            The Truck rules don't specify anything about soaking one way or the other ( it just says "Fascar approved tire" ) but they do allow wheel weights!


                            Super Stock only says "Fascar approved" with no reference to the general safety rule.

                            Mini Stock has a 50 spec on the durometer.

                            Strictly outlaws trueing and soaking ... but has no durometer spec.

                            the Enduro/Demo rules don't comment on soaking at all.
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                            • #15
                              I understand what you are saying Todd, I just thought it was interesting that they were announcing no more soaking when I never thought it was allowed espeically for SLM but to say that for all divisions.

                              This is posted under each division in the 2009 FASCAR rulebook.


                              PLEASE BE SURE YOU HAVE READ AND
                              UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL AND SAFETY
                              RULES BEFORE CONTINUING



                              Curious to see what the officials do once the season starts.

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