FL Gov Cup - $10,000.00 BONUS!

[Frasson118]

What good would a "guaranteed starting spot" in the Governors Cup be? No one gets sent home anyways... there ARE no DNQ's at the Cup race.

And what benefit would 5 Flags get from giving a provisional to the Cup winner?

Face it... very few racers are concerned with both races. They are all concentrating on one or the other... not both.

Now, if the Florida SLM rules would mirror what the rest of the country is doing, then they might be on to something.

[Snowball]

I'm pretty sure that Five Flags is on par with the rest of the country regarding rules. They pretty much allow all the different engine packages including the Florida sealed engines. Rogers has ran that a few times.

[Frasson118]

Snowball... I didn't mean to imply that 5 Flags is the one out of line. They've proven that they can bring cars from all over. It's the Central part of Florida that seems to be off on their own island.

In my opinion, that is why even Speedweeks doesn't pull in the out-of-towners like it once did. They find it damn near impossible to run with the local cars here. Speedfest at Lakeland is another example.

On the other hand, the "combination" rules that they used last friday at OSW, seemed (to me anyways) like a very good formula. The Florida All Stars are supposed to use this formula next year, and I see promising things coming from that series.

Sorry for the confusion!

[Snowball]

No Problem. I'm hoping that Super Latemodel racing can continue and make it through these tough times. It worries me when historic tracks like Birmingham and now Nashville are closing! pretty soon there won't be any out of town tracks to draw from if this trend keeps up!

[Tim]

Sorry

I didn't realize that the rules were so stacked to the central florida drivers advantage. Had I known that other drivers could not be competitive in central florida due to the difference in the rules I would not have suggested anything. I retract my idea.

[Mark Keeler]

If the cars are so different then how do they compete at Speedweeks... Johanna Long set quick-time on one night and ran pretty much in the top five the entire series...

Don't get me wrong... I am a technical illiterate when it comes to rules and stuff, but she mixed it up with the best down here for 9 straight nights!

Just curious

[Frasson118]

Jack Landis comes to mind. He got tired of finishing 5th or 6th every night, behind the Florida "Spec" motor cars (read that as Progressive Engines). So he whips out the checkbook, buys one of their motors, and gets a win before the week was over. I've read comments by several of the CRA & PASS drivers, that said the motor rules are just too much to overcome... no sense hauling to Florida to run for 5th-10th. This is the main thing that killed out-of-state participation in that race.

Tim... I didn't try to say it was a bad idea, just that Governors Cup has a lot to win in a deal with 5 Flags, but not the other way around. Pensacola doesn't need help from NSS, but NSS sure could use some help from 5 Flags. However, for every car that had engine troubles or a crash at NSS, is 1 more car that will not make it to the Derby. What does 5 Flags stand to gain???

Not sure about the Johanna Long situation, but I thought she had also purchased one of the Fla Spec motors (don't know which brand). They are one of the few that can afford a special engine that they will only use 1 week a year. Now that she has a bunch more experience (which was the main reason for coming to Speedweeks), I don't think they would replace that motor when the time comes.

By no means am I technology advanced enough to know all the answers, but I do read a lot of things that have been said on the record. Most of it comes down to "why would I buy a motor that can only be run in Central Florida?"

[Frasson118]

EDM... he was just responding to this quote earlier in the thread:

"Robert Hart or whoever is in charge at NSS pay the last finishing position for the derby out of your pocket, guessing around 400.00 bucks or so..."

Snowball was only adjusting the estimate.

[Edm]

EDM... he was just responding to this quote earlier in the thread:

"Robert Hart or whoever is in charge at NSS pay the last finishing position for the derby out of your pocket, guessing around 400.00 bucks or so..."

Snowball was only adjusting the estimate.

I missed that part, makes more sense now. Thanks

[pitcrew]

The Florida Spec was a great concept and not at all out of line power wise (~600 HP) with any of the built engines. At $15000 when the program started, it was an affordable option for those who couldn't compete with the $40,000 plus built motors.

THE PROBLEM is like everything else it seems- certain people were allowed to skirt rules, or certain builders got creative with certain motors, and then those who were legal were not allowed to protest a SPEC motor ("That's why they're sealed, so they can't cheat") :P

As always, without tech certain groups or individuals will have an advantage; and then it was all downhill. Price of the motors went up, acceptance at other tracks went down blah blah blah and now this is what we have.....once again a couple people ruined it for everybody.

[Frasson118]

Well said. Thanks!