think about this

[northfloridajoyce]

I Just Dont Understand. Im A Retired Racer From Back When. And Have Always Been A Fan Just Like Most Of Us At The Speedway, Family,Friends,Fans,Competiters,Crew. Why is There The Complaning And B*tching Like Some People are 10 year old little Girls?

In This Day And Age We Should Consider Ourselfs Lucky We Still Have a Nice Local Speedway you Like to Enjoy On Weekends, And - That There Are Race Teams With A Love Of The Sport to Keep Expensive Cars Raceing on them. Words Like Revenge,lazy,Stupid,Spin Outs,Cheats and All Impressive *ussy Complaints About the Track Crew And Stewarts, Are Disgusting and Immature, GROW UP, OR DONT COME BACK!

If The People Complaining About the Stewerts Absolutly Need and Exact Science And Percise Actions And Decisions, You Should Take Up the Sport Of Chess, Thats Is Probably More Your Speed.

As Far As People Being Upset about Driver Actions, Lets all Remember Its Raceing! 1000's of Different scenrios Are Going to Occur, Thats Part Of The Fun. I Really Dont think that there is a Driver on the Track That Has the Total Intention of Harming Another Driver! Or ruining His Own Equipment to Get Revenge.

As Far As Cheating. Well Theres Cheating And Theres Pushing the Envelope. 99.9 percent of race teams Push the Envelope of the Rules, I Mean Lets Face Sometimes Money Doesnt Buy Horsepower. Design,Fabrication,Invention,Engineering Should Be Absolutly Encouraged. And Intensional Cheating Should Be Dealt With Swiftly and Harshly.

Lets All Remember Its A Hobby, We Are All Raceing Family. We Are Going To Be Very Passionate At Times On How We feel About Certain Situations. Let Cooler Heads Prevail And Calm Down for A Day Or 2 Befor make Public Acusations or Permenant Decisions.

[northfloridajoyce]

I took this post from another racing board ,I did it because it made a lot of sense to me. I hope it means the same to all of you.

[RSB]

ya think?

Doesn't mean crap to me. I've wrecked people intentionally, cheated, got caught some, "pushed the envelope", got screwed by tech, got away with it, got good calls, got bad calls, got in fights, started fights. But if tech is gonna see something that is BLATANT cheating and let it "slide", I ain't coming back. Favoritism SUCKS and it's ruined certain tracks. Get it?

[villageracefan]

Well said Joyce. Lets all work together and try to save short track racing.

[Osmosis Jones]

Contradictions make the world go round.....

"Cheats and All Impressive *ussy Complaints About the Track Crew And Stewarts, Are Disgusting and Immature, GROW UP, OR DONT COME BACK!"

I was just thinking......

Is this the pot calling the kettle dark green?

Kinda like one trailer park resident yelling over the junk pile where the fence used to be, "You cain't hang yer old man's skidded up drawers on my satlight entenny no more, Eunice...we's got cable now! You gotta use the power line drop, like everboddy else!"

Also: Is it hard to reach over and hold down the shift key to capitalize every word? Makes my brain hurt just reading stuff like that....

[Nickel and Dime]

What do you expect?

Track owners know what they have to do to get drivers in and keep them. Your track is dying and you want to blame anyone except the one looking at you in the mirror. Call us whiners, complainers, *ussies, little girls or anything else you want. The bottom line is you have lost most all of your cars, drivers and fans and it’s always easier to blame someone else. Many of the drivers that have left your track are still racing, what does that tell you? Dirt or asphalt, it doesn’t matter if the drivers don’t want to race for you.

"OR DONT COME BACK!"

No worries there.

[bubba]

Whoever authored that must be the antimatter incarnation of mr lowercase, ronabneysr.

It really did hurt to read that.

[Jane]

Funny but I have not seen Joyce blame anyone here. All she has done is ask the racers and fans what do we need to do to make it better for everyone. I understand you are upset with tech or someone in tech but Joyce has done nothing but try her best to make the track better. At least she cares enough to ask. Do you really want another dead track in Florida?? Everyone complains and complains but all the sudden when the track is gone and you have no where close to race, then you wish you had cared.

You know we all make mistakes in life and I guess we all piss someone off every now and then but all Joyce is doing is asking what can we do to make things better. And all that requires of anyone is an honest answer.

[Nickel and Dime]

More to it

In her original post she is blaming anyone that has ever had a complaint against the track or another driver and belittled them with name calling. I realize that she 'borrowed' it from another site but she confirmed that was her feelings as well. There is more to this story than you are aware of Jane. She has asked several former drivers of CMP what it would take to get them back and they have responded. And if you look at the car counts, there are a lot more than just a few people pissed off every now and then; there are a lot of people pissed on both sides of the fence. If you talk to most of these former drivers, they do care what happens to CMP and want to race there. But it's just not worth being bent over and taking it every time you roll thru the gate.

[northfloridajoyce]

I wasn't blaming anything or anyone,My point was no DRIVER plans to mess up his equipment to get even with someone.That was the only point I was trying to make.If I offended you or anyone else with this post I am sorry.I just want everyone to race and to get along.With out all the fuss.Thats all .

[Rick Williamson]

What can we do to make things BETTER? Well that question has been anwsered hundreds of times on here and other message boards over the years. And they were pointing their posts at each and every track in the state of florida almost. At one time or another. If track owners don't know by now . It's because they don't give a danm what the drivers or pit crews or fans think. Now don't get me wrong. There are a few "very few" owners trying to work with the drivers and fans. With all others it's my way or the highway. And those aren't just words they are the truth.

[Rick Williamson]

I just want everyone to race and to get along.With out all the fuss.Thats all .

Joyce it's just not that simple a thing to do. If it was they would have been fixed along time ago at each track before they really got started. Both sides have to sit down and really listen to the other. And really want to work together.

[Darren]

forget the pit side

go over to the grandstand side. Sure, if some of the people that has paid to watch the race is family and friends of drivers then they will know what is going on and why their driver is not racing there and will also go to the other track with them. You need people in the grand stand that are there just to watch, nothing to do with racers, and not knowing about the unhappness going on in the pit area. If you don't have that the track is doomed no matter how many drivers you got that loves the track. You might as well go to participants racing and bring more karts, minicups and other groups in to help pay for the rental of the track. I think everyone knows if you hit to bricks together both are going to break or crack, so this ideal that someone goes after someone, they know that they will be fixing their car during the week. If they are not then they failed giving a good show to the crowd.

[RSB]

Am I the only one?

Again, I HAVE messed up my equipment(and other innocent racers') getting EVEN with another driver. There has got to be others.

[Nickel and Dime]

Nope, your the only one. I'm guessing you have been abused as some point...JK John.