can you remember when

[Darren]

flvideo

reread what you wrote about how much fun it was etc,etc. Then think about this. Why can't it be fun again and cheap. If I was a promoter and had a group of drivers that came to me and said that they wanted to take control of their class, such as a bomber class and keep it fun and cheap and meet all safety needs and do the teching themselves for some trophies and a small purse. Wouldn't that be a no brainer. Might turn out to be the biggest class at the track. Keep the rules simple and cheap. If a driver cannot get along with other drivers he would be told not to come back by the drivers. Of course, all drivers would have to look out for each other and play by the rules. Besides, if each car is built by them the driver then it comes down to driver's smarts and talent. Isn't that what alot of people say on here. That money is what wins racings. So take the money out of it.

[MW68SS]

I remember Jimmie Cassleberry in the early mid 80's having a $5000 late model racing at Auburndale Speedway for $1200 to win a 25 lap feature every Saturday. I helped on a Sportsman at the time camaro chassis 10" tires Double Hump heads Solid lift cams had bumper to bumper $2000 racing for $400 to win 25 feature. Fast forward to today. Latemodel "have no clue the cost" running 75 lap races $2000 to win. Sportsman are $15-25000 depending on if you want to win and you have pieces to start out with paying $400 to win. If you look at this it really makes no sense at all. The last street stock i built i had $7000 invested in it bumper to bumper and it was built in 2006. The cost of what you get for winning compared to what you spend is way out of proportion compared to what it used to be.

[ronabneysr]

don't think i am smart aaaaaaaassssssss

but i don't think any thing like that would ever work the promoter pays the bills or owner otherwords the man you could not get a group of drivers to agree on what class to race first and i'm not being a d-h-

years ago all the super six drivers or early model drivers at golden gate were going to show frank deary the owner of golden gate how to run a race track come race time they was not going to race and they was going to have the fans not come in well that went over like a turngreen fart in baptist church

to bad this ain't perfect world we could race 5 days week and work one and ever body could win

[Darren]

cars of yesterday

they seem to understand what it takes to run without some major govering head telling them what they have to do or not to do. Nor do they have a promoter out there telling a track that they want x amount of dollars to race. They seem to have a good time. Yes I know that they don't want to wreck or tear their cars up, but who does. Just a thought to make it cheap and make the car count better. Besides driver are now more than ever are going to have to work just as hard to help keep tracks open or no playground for them.

[osteen86]

hey ron, my dad howard used to have a shop across from yours over by wendys in lakeland i was young back then but now i race at aurburdale in the bombers #86

[Frasson118]

The "club" concept seems to be working in most places.

For example, TBARA, the UDLMCS, DIRT, World of Outlaws, the URC, Lucas Oil Series, IMCA, etc.... The common thing they have, is that the Club or sanctioning body makes all the technical rules. You build a car to these specs, or don't bring it here. The rules are made by, and for, the competitors in those series. If rules need tweaking, they get it, but they don't get crazy and run off their entire support group. Subtle changes, not drastic ones.

And these groups do get support.

Now look at individual tracks... rules that are specific to one track, tires you can't run anywhere else, scheduling conflicts like crazy... and very little support from the fans or the participants.

Maybe it's time for these different divisions to get together, make their own rulebooks, and TELL the tracks what rules they will run under. Who knows better what a Mini-Stock or a Modified should be? The individual track owners, or the guys that actually build and race these cars?

I'm pretty sure I know which group understands things better.

[andre]

Who knows better what a Mini-Stock or a Modified should be?

By no means it's the only one, but my answer to that would be:
a well establish sanction, Dirt, ACT, Imca.