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  • Completely Unofficial Citrus 8/27/16 Expanded Recap

    First, thanks to Zerofor, Mr. Diehl, and Renegade (& etc.) for the information in the "Citrus County Speedway 8/27" thread.

    Took my Father over to Citrus last evening. He is gaining on 91 now, but hung in there for another evening of racing. Still sharp, he is right there for every shot to a rear quarter panel.

    The Heat and Sun:
    Unbelievable this time of year. Front stretch admission--$5. But the sun was unbearable, and my brother was also there and looked like a wilting tomato, so we headed for the backstretch stands. Cost--$30. I decided I have been paying to get into the pits lately anyway and had the other $25 (each), and paid it. IMO, if you got the jack, it is a worthwhile investment.

    The Backstretch Stands:
    In addition to being cool and pleasant and not having the blinding sun in your eyes, the height and the view is also superior back there. But later it was dark, and...quiet. No information. I am certain those are relatively easy fixes and will be addressed in the future.

    Additionally, the front bleachers (an apt term in this case) filled up, and the back stretch stands darned near did as well--with a few crewpersons, but mostly fans.

    Concessions:
    On the back side, there is a ton of money waiting to be spent. I waited in line and bailed twice as a race or restart was happening. One hour for three drinks. I would suggest getting on this and absorbing the rest of the revenue. Again, a relatively easy fix.

    For sure, there should be a separate "drinks only" line with a dedicated person to sell them by the next event.

    The Track:
    "A++" on the repave. IMO, they improved the place. The line into three has moved up a little on the backstretch, the apex is early, and they are much lower heading onto the front straight. Interestingly, they now swing out early and wide coming out of two. Mostly a one groove track, but there were passes on the outside. More on that later...

    The "Strickly" Stocks:
    After things settled out, Cody Stickler in his cool Malibu was trying to get by Jeff Cuddy in the ever quick "XL" car. Cuddy was a little quicker down the straights but was on the verge of wheel hop, and Stickler was applying the chrome horn when he could, until...there was a spin on the high side in one and a caution was thrown. This is a judgment call, but it appeared to this writer that the XL experienced a more rapid deceleration than the situation really called for, catching Stickler by surprise, and he drilled him directly in the rear with a substantial shot. It bent Cody's front tubing around the radiator, and something in there was making some racket, perhaps an electric fan into a pulley, but it did not leak.

    After the race resumed, Cuddy soon blew a right rear tire, probably a delayed reaction from the contact, and Stickler went on to win.

    A sidebar: In an earlier incident, Jeff Cuddy's car lost the passenger door skin. It revealed a horizontal bar at shoulder height, a diagonal, and one rather lame door bar that was not welded to the other two. Jeff, I do not know you, sir. But I will bet you have some combination of kids, parents, buddies, maybe a girlfriend or wife (both?)--that love you. I know it is on the right side, but please consider throwing some more tubing over there. It just ain't worth the chance, sir.

    Tracks:--With all the rules to work around, seriously, that is all that is required...?

    The Late Models:
    I knew there were three Anderson cars there, but the names on the doors were small and there was no announcing. The 84 was damn fast and cut through the field like butter. As it turns out, it was Wayne, and he has lost nothing behind the wheel, in setup, or in the beef under the hood.

    Early in the event Jake Perkins in another Anderson car barely hooked Adkins (Atkinson?) right rear bumper and the non-Anderson machine took the brunt of the hit, winding up ON the turn one wall. He was understandably not pleased with the situation. Am hoping they get a proper poured wall in there soon, without the ramp effect of the "temporary" concrete barriers.

    At one point, the #7 car made an outside pass on the #84 on a restart, and looked like he might actually have made it by. What would have happened after that is conjecture, as he broke and pulled in, so we will never know.

    Dave Pletcher was also there and looked good, but was taken out in a crash.

    Congratulations to Wayne Anderson, who is clearly still "The Man".

    The Modifieds:
    Josh Todd in Dickie's immaculate #7 started up front and appeared to have the field covered, but Robbie Cooper, in a sinister flat black Cope car, had other ideas. Cooper was RIGHT THERE on the restarts and in one of the early ones was pretty far up on Todd heading into one, and fairly serious contact was made, sending Cooper up the track and back a few spots. But another yellow flew, and Cooper made it pretty clear to Todd that he was a very unhappy camper.

    They put him back up there, and on about the second subsequent restart, it appeared that Cooper fired first slightly and held that advantage into one. The flagman let it stand. He then closed the deal in 3 and four.

    Right now on that new asphalt, an interesting phenomenon is taking place. It is largely a one groove track, and in every case the leader chose low on restarts. BUT, what the #7 almost pulled off in the late models, and what Cooper did pull off in the modifieds was as follows: Heading into three the Cooper #98 drove in impossibly deep, and in kind of a four-wheel-drift-spin-the-thing-out move. About a third of the way through, the tires all simultaneously hooked, and the car, now aimed at the front stretch, shot forward into the lead.

    Keep in mind that Josh Todd was his usual hooked up self, but the outside banzai move was even faster!

    Todd still had a slightly faster car, and dove incredibly deep into a few turns after that, but Robbie was not to be denied, and went on to the win.

    The Wrap Up:
    Whatever else is happening in your life right now, you have got to get to Citrus County in the near future!

    There a few things that need ironing out, but they have got it going on over there!
    Last edited by OldSchool+; 08-28-2016, 01:27 PM.

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    Old school

    You had it made in the shade!! We roasted in turn four.All I needed was some potatoes, carrots and onions because I was the roast.The #7 car you referenced in the late models was Mike Bresnahan.The car that tangled with Jake Perkins early on was the #51 of Michael At well who went up on top of and damn near over the first turn wall ending his night.Perkins was in the #83,Wayne Anderson in his familiar #84,and Randy Anderson and Ricky Anderson in the #85 and 86 or vice versa on the last two. All four cars had Perkins spelled out along the bottom so it appears an alliance has been formed there.Two non racing related notes,picked up a track t shirt on the way out for nine bucks.A deal at any event. The second one not so pleasant. When the mass exodus started after the lap 59 restart it caused a traffic jam of people leaving and unfortunately blocking the view of people on the bottom row trying to watch the remainder of the race. A shoving match ensued and the commotion caused me to miss a few laps towards the end.Maybe a walkway from the turn four beer garden behind the stands could be squeezed in? Overall a good night of racing and they announced the super latemodels will be back on September tenth after an off week for the speedway next week.
    Last edited by zerofor; 08-28-2016, 01:41 PM.
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      [QUOTE=OldSchool+;171423][I]
      "The Late Models:
      I knew there were three Anderson cars there, but the names on the doors were small and there was no announcing. The 84 was damn fast and cut through the field like butter. As it turns out, it was Wayne, and he has lost nothing behind the wheel, in setup, or in the beef under the hood."

      I am curious. I announce at Citrus County Speedway. I beg to differ with you that there was no announcing. There was plenty of announcing all evening long as I do my utmost each and every time to keep fans in the know.

      I informed fans that Anderson Racing had a total of four cars competing in the Super Late Models a few times during the course of the evening: during European style qualifying, and in the feature race itself. We also did outside driver introductions before the 75 lap Super Late Model feature announcing the entire field from trackside and giving fans the chance to actually see each driver.

      Where were you seated? Perhaps it was a speaker issue nearby where you were seated that was making it impossible for you to hear my announcing. If that was the case, on behalf of the track management, I apologize for the inconvenience. Rest assured that the Ray family will address the issue before our next race program on September 10th.

      For the record the four Anderson Racing cars that were in competition were:

      #83 Jake Perkins
      #84 Wayne Anderson
      #85 Ricky Anderson
      #86 Randy Anderson


      Thanks for your wrap up comment, "Whatever else is happening in your life right now, you have got to get to Citrus County in the near future!

      There a few things that need ironing out, but they have got it going on over there!"
      Last edited by John Berti; 08-28-2016, 03:54 PM.

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      • #4
        There was no sound coming from the backstretch speakers.

        I was down closer to the end of the backstretch.

        Along with AC/DC rocking the crowd, I could hear your announcing from across the speedway, but could not make out what you were saying.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by OldSchool+ View Post
          There was no sound coming from the backstretch speakers.

          I was down closer to the end of the backstretch.

          Along with AC/DC rocking the crowd, I could hear your announcing from across the speedway, but could not make out what you were saying.
          Thanks for the info. I will relay it to William or Camron Ray. They might even see this post as well. Hopefully they can correct the situation.

          As far as I know there are no speakers over on the pit side over which you can hear my announcing. Unfortunately that is the case at just about every other speedway as well. That's just the way it is.

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          • #6
            Am pretty sure there are speakers, but they were not functioning. The backstretch stands are significantly nicer than any other track than I can think of, and, as mentioned, were chock full of fans. In fact, broiling aside, I liked them better than the front stretch stands. It is a rather high end deal back there that could be really nice for virtually no additional investment.

            Thank you for passing it along. Although worth it, $30 is a premium ticket price for a fan.

            A thought regarding pit tickets and promoting. Typical pitside entry fee is $20-$25. Consider giving out a coupon for a hot dog when attaching the armbands. Pitside only.

            They should be less than a buck each, cost wise, and it would make the good old boys happy.
            Last edited by OldSchool+; 08-28-2016, 05:33 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by John Berti View Post
              Thanks for the info. I will relay it to William or Camron Ray. They might even see this post as well. Hopefully they can correct the situation.

              As far as I know there are no speakers over on the pit side over which you can hear my announcing. Unfortunately that is the case at just about every other speedway as well. That's just the way it is.
              Let me clarify what I meant by "there are no speakers over on the pit side over which you can hear my announcing".

              The PA system on the pit side is a totally separate system from the PA system on the spectator side that I use for announcing to the fans. The pit side PA system is utilized to provide information for the drivers, car owners and crew members benefit. It is not designed for the fans. This is also the way it is at just about every race track across the country. You can look at that as being the downside of fans sitting at the pit side grandstands.

              I'd like to also make it known that the PA system on the spectator side is not the finalized speaker and PA system. Our current system is a temporary one utilizing the equipment of our DJ, Magic. It is certainly better than you experience at most speedways, but wait and see how even better it will be when the system the Ray family has order arrives and gets installed. The wait will be well worth it.

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              • #8
                John,

                I understand where you are coming from.

                There was no sound coming from the backstretch speakers, announcer, pit info, or otherwise.

                Second, it is very uncomfortable in the main grandstands due to the sun, and clearly a whole raft of fans--not pit folks--thought so as well and forked out the $30 to sit over there.

                Most tracks have 17 people in the pit stands. Citrus had hundreds, and they were by and large fans, and not heading back to the stock cars in between races, like crew members do.

                To recap: The sun hitting the main grandstand at Citrus in the summer time is not something I want to deal with.

                For everyone that is of that mindset--and again there were hundreds--here are the real world choices:

                >Go to another racetrack

                >Or pay $30 and go to the backstretch stands

                My suggestion is to capitalize on the situation and make it a high end backstretch grandstand. Certainly a wire from your booth can be run to the rear straight pole mounted speakers.

                I think the upper tier, used by spotters, could have their own info broadcast from pitside, and the speakers on the poles near the track could broadcast the same info as the frontstretch.

                The track, of course, can make whatever choices they like.
                Last edited by OldSchool+; 08-29-2016, 08:28 AM.

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                • #9
                  I've often wondered why FL tracks don't build canopies over the stands due to the incredible Sun and Heat and to keep people dry in the inevitable passing showers and storms in the summer. I guess it all comes down to money, but man it would be nice. Sounds like it was a great night at Citrus... I'm anxious to see the place next time I am down. Hopefully they have a show while I am down next time around. Citrus use to be my Go-To when I lived in O-Town...

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                  • #10
                    Golden Gate speedway in Tampa did have a canopy, and it was very cool.

                    I think those stands were facing east, not west.

                    Good suggestion, Phil.

                    Unsolicited input:
                    "We roasted in turn four. All I needed was some potatoes, carrots and onions because I was the roast."--04
                    And yes sir, it was a great night at Citrus!
                    Last edited by OldSchool+; 08-29-2016, 09:00 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by OldSchool+ View Post
                      Golden Gate speedway in Tampa did have a canopy, and it was very cool.

                      I think those stands were facing east, not west.

                      Good suggestion, Phil.

                      Unsolicited input:

                      "We roasted in turn four. All I needed was some potatoes, carrots and onions because I was the roast."--04
                      Well, I guess it's not really as much of a suggestion as me wondering. I am sure at some point, the tracks down there have thought about doing this. Obviously Citrus is having no issue pulling in a crowd, despite the sun and heat from the pics I have seen so kudos to them.

                      I don't think I am even old enough to remember Golden Gate, even if I was around when it was active. Hell, I'm still learning about tracks of the past up this way lol

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                      • #12
                        Phil, I believe it closed in 1983.

                        About then, you were probably running other kids into a snow bank on your big-wheel!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OldSchool+ View Post
                          Phil, I believe it closed in 1983.

                          About then, you were probably running other kids into a snow bank on your big-wheel!
                          No sir, I wasn't even alive yet. Feel old now? Born in 1985 my friend. lol

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                          • #14
                            Here is the deal:

                            I am too old to die young. My Dad is almost 91. I do not know if I will make it that far. If I don't, he "wins".

                            Similarly, I sincerely hope and pray you make it that far as well. Or at least to my age.

                            If you don't, I win.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OldSchool+ View Post
                              Here is the deal:

                              I am too old to die young. My Dad is almost 91. I do not know if I will make it that far. If I don't, he "wins".

                              Similarly, I sincerely hope and pray you make it that far as well. Or at least to my age.

                              If you don't, I win.
                              Age is only a number, sir!

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