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  • #16
    Showtime speedway

    Tech man stepped it up last night. I wonder who Citrus is entertaining ?
    Doug Miller # 53

    2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
    2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
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    • #17
      The tech man at showtime should not try to check ride heights right after qualifying knowing full well that we run tie down shocks and have sway bar in the cars.

      Not only running 3 qualifying laps but 5 parade/warm up laps the soft springs give out and cannot hold the car up.

      Especially since Yoho himself said that there was no more ride height rule a few weeks ago.

      so Doug, I disagree that the tech man there is stepping it up, he is actually running cars off and showtime will be the next track to suffer low car counts.

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      • #18
        I see

        Originally posted by exnyer View Post
        The tech man at showtime should not try to check ride heights right after qualifying knowing full well that we run tie down shocks and have sway bar in the cars.

        Not only running 3 qualifying laps but 5 parade/warm up laps the soft springs give out and cannot hold the car up.

        Especially since Yoho himself said that there was no more ride height rule a few weeks ago.

        so Doug, I disagree that the tech man there is stepping it up, he is actually running cars off and showtime will be the next track to suffer low car counts.
        I was unaware of any of that. I also found out from a different post that some of the DQ's were from on track incidents......maybe nothing is changing ? No ride heights ? thats been a rule forever ?
        Doug Miller # 53

        2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
        2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
        2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
        2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
        2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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        • #19
          The Three Cs

          All the other cars made the height.

          I suspect the 07 could have been "raised", but that would have started them in the back with a less than optimum and somewhat unknown setup. Putting it on the trailer was an option, and they chose it. Fair enough.

          You know, back when I was getting edjumacated, there was a fundamental taught (or at least it used to be taught, we did not learn "trigger" words) in English Lit 101.

          That fundamental: The Three "Cs"

          >Be Clear
          >Be Concise (that is, short and to the point)
          >And be Consistent

          Seems like those would work well in The Rules and their execution in Tech.
          Last edited by OldSchool+; 06-07-2016, 08:27 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by openwm53 View Post
            I was unaware of any of that. I also found out from a different post that some of the DQ's were from on track incidents......maybe nothing is changing ? No ride heights ? thats been a rule forever ?
            Yes Doug, I agree. Ride heights have always been a rule. It was just the way the situation was handled that I do not agree with. Another thing is the track owner saying one thing and tech doing another.

            As far as the other things that happened that night, I cannot speak of because I have no knowledge of them.

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            • #21
              I gotta nit-pick a little....

              "running 3 qualifying laps and the soft springs give out and don't hold the car up"

              Unless the springs are permanently deformed and must be thrown away, there is no way this statement can be correct. Maybe the car settles? I will wager that the elastic limit of the springs is not exceeded, and that they are not ruined after 3 laps.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Boneman View Post
                I gotta nit-pick a little....

                "running 3 qualifying laps and the soft springs give out and don't hold the car up"

                Unless the springs are permanently deformed and must be thrown away, there is no way this statement can be correct. Maybe the car settles? I will wager that the elastic limit of the springs is not exceeded, and that they are not ruined after 3 laps.
                Come on Boney, post my whole sentence, not just a piece of it.......

                I never said that 3 laps and the springs give out, but when you have soft springs, run 5 PARADE LAPS and 3 QUALIFYING LAPS then try to check ride heights with the SWAY BAR in the car it probably not make it. Soft springs will start to sag when they get hot, it happens.

                The object is to get the nose and chassis as close to the track without bottoming out.

                But, here is the point, YOHO said there was no more ride height rules!

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                • #23
                  It sure is funny that years ago we had to make height rules after the race. I do not think the springs are any different now. If the springs and shocks give up after 8 or 10 laps, you have more problems than with them. Should still have to check them after the race, too many ways to make it legal before the race, we called it cheating.

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                  • #24
                    I like the fwd thinking about a hypothethical #fundmytech, not sure about it, but it is interesting. Like an independent umpire deal I guess. Great concept but it sounds like it takes money and that leaves me to vote no right away

                    :-)

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                    • #25
                      I agree that a promoter and his tech guy should be on the same page.

                      That said, it seems kind of self-explanatory that a racecar should hold itself up off the ground...otherwise...

                      "Dig my '64 Chebby Impala late model, mang"

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                      • #26
                        Did they only check one car? JS

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                        • #27
                          They

                          Originally posted by ozzy42 View Post
                          Did they only check one car? JS
                          Checked the top 5 in qualifying............07 fast time. For as long as I can remember Denny Neighbors would let the driver pull up on the car. The Tech man now will not. I have had this argument with him.
                          Doug Miller # 53

                          2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                          2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                          2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                          2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                          2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Lurkin View Post
                            I like the fwd thinking about a hypothethical #fundmytech, not sure about it, but it is interesting. Like an independent umpire deal I guess. Great concept but it sounds like it takes money and that leaves me to vote no right away

                            :-)
                            5 bucks..........
                            Doug Miller # 53

                            2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                            2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                            2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                            2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                            2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                            • #29
                              the car does not go around the track with someone pulling up on it.

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                              • #30
                                height

                                every one wants it their way . go by the rule book and you have no problem. any changes for you should be posted and signed in your book by tech.. keep book with race car. now no complaints

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