sportsman NSS

[OldSchool+]

Good thoughts, shorttrack.

NSS is doing their best as well. They check something different every week, to keep 'em guessing.

Every week.

[pkirky33]

Old fool, you've got to be kidding me. Honest mistake? Your telling me Donnie nor Pat knew those heads have not been touched.....BS! So those heads and that motor have sat around with old ass valves and springs and they just threw it in the car? Have you not looked at his cars? They look like Supers, no junk bolted on them. Do you know of a driver/owner that didn't play stupid when caught? Stick to being a fan....

[OldSchool+]

Ptwerpy,

Look, normally I would agree with you, but in this case, I know better first hand.

I was under the #111 Thursday night. And I was there when it rolled through tech Thursday night--and passed. There was no concern in that pit.

Do you know of what you speak first hand?

Sometimes truth seems stranger than fiction--but it is still truth.

[Patrick Thomas 25]

Statement #2 because this is ridiculous.

The built motor that I ran this weekend was a motor that was freshened up, the motor hasn't been in a Racecar in several years. When Donny was still driving for Mr. Harris, he was struggling keeping up racing a crate motor against the built motors. Truly I was also struggling trying to beat the built motor cars with my old 25 car with a crate motor. We won a lot last year with a crate motor, but really struggled to keep up with the 55 and 28 at the end of last year. So when I found out that Mr Harris had a built motor that just needed to be put in the car I was excited to put it in. The motor that got DQed this weekend, according to 2 reputable people, had passed tech 5 to 6 times in the passed. That's how the motor was presented to me, as a legal motor.

As everybody knows, there used to be very little tech at Newsmyrna. The heads that were DQed were over 10 years old, and had never been accused of even being close to being illegal, infact I was told when they were teched before, the cars they were also teching were DQed and these were called legal.

I would love this class to be a crate motor only class, I think it is ridiculous how much you can spend on a built motor. They need to do something now to make the 2 motor combinations closer together because they are not. They need a chip rule or gear rule on the built motors, or give the crate motor cars a weight break or more left side weight or something.

As far as light weight parts on the top crate cars, of coarse the top guys have light parts bolted to the crate motor, but if you think the top built motor cars aren't bolting lightweight parts to the motor, you are sadly mistaken, so that's a mute point.

Once again I can promise you, when we bring the built motor back out, it will have a new set of legal heads, and I will be happy to tear down again to show everybody, just like I was Sunday night when I was sure the motor I was racing was legal.

Sucks, this class had so much momentum going, and now the whole class has a black eye, the top 3 cars all had illegal heads. And I bet if Ricky would have decided to keep tearing down motors, he would have found more. The real loser in this whole deal is the sportsman class for all the negative press.

Patrick Thomas 111

[OldSchool+]

Respectfully, I would suggest that all is well with the Sportsman class, and your reputation.

The cars still look like throwback late models, and the racing is close. The fans love them.

The next event will come up, the green will fall, someone will try to "cut down" on you, the fans will see it two ways...someone will get a trophy.

Just another speedbump along the way.

[Todd Allen]

hard to talk when you dont have a car i heard daddy sold it on you when you threw a temper tantrum. looks like youre the one who got spanked

We had some disagreements and the car was sold as a result. I fell out of love with racing back in march 2010. So Daddy selling his car made me very happy. I've played this game numerous times and won it a couple handful of times too. Game over...

You guys have fun as the last good class in Florida is now officially on the ropes!

[OldSchool+]

Am hoping things improve with your Father.

[ancrdave]

Apparently Shyanne Mathers' dad bought Todd's car and gave it to his daughter as a Valentine's Day present... She won the Strictly Stock championship at NSS three years ago, I think it was...

Also see that Derrick Kelley (SLM #21) was thrown off the property for the remainder of the week for soaking tires...

[Benny The Mule]

Reading this entire thread, as painful as it was. I don't see any of this as negative press unless it's interpreted that way. Tech is happening, guys know what they need to do and the other guys see it happening.

Win Win if you ask me.

[George R]

I believe everything patrick has to say. NOT!

[George R]

Cheata

I believe everything patrick has to say. NOT!

[Dfrye13]

Harris Oil #111

I visit this website a couple time a week and read all of the nonsense that is thrown up on these message boards. I have been going to the track with Patrick Thomas and Brad May for over 15 years now helping them in anyway I can, and learning a vast amount about the workings of a racecar. I myself have a superstock that I race from time to time and have been fast even winning a race a NSS. I was fortunate enough to be ask by Patrick to break in a new CRATE motor fresh off the truck in his car that won so many races last year. Again I want to reiterate for the haters that it was a brand new sealed CRATE motor. I had never driven his car before and had only driven one other sportsman car once prior to speedweeks. I can assure you that it's not the motor that makes Patrick go fast and win races. He puts in an incredible amount of hours and late nights working on the handling of the cars. This was pretty evident when I, a rookie in the sportsman class, was able to go out and qualify his car 3rd the first night, be top three in practice the second night, and doing it all on 150+ lap old tires. Its not the motor. Thanks Patrick and Mr. Harris for letting me have some fun in your car and even getting to lead some laps in the 50 lapper on sunday!

[OldSchool+]

Like the rest of the Team, Dfrye is a modest man.

He failed to mention that he is a pretty quick shoe in his own right.