LMP1 Nissan

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Nissan discontinued lmp1 program today and laid off all employees. Car was doomed from the beginning. It sure looked cool though.

Just shows that sometimes innovation does not equal performance

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Looked cool. Good concept.poor execution

[OldSchool+]

"[The Nissan LMP1] Car was doomed from the beginning."--Cake

Correct, from inherently flawed engineering.

Most of the time you can dig your way out of a bad deal with money, but not all of the time...

[jacko241]

In my opinion, that makes 2 bad endeavors with their involvement with the stupid looking Deltawing.

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As a fan, I appreciate the innovation. And if it would have been competitive, it would have been awesome.

The delta wing is a penis with wheels. Katherine Legge drove the crap out of it though.

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Re: Delta Wing

> Actually surprised me at how well it does work (not that it works all that well).

>IMSA has varying air inlet restrictors to "balance performance". It is my understanding that it has been used to bolster the performance of that "car".

>It is my further understanding that it is largely balanced on the rear wheels, rather like a Segway with a front canard aiming device.

>Joe, what kind of verbiage is that? It is by no means "stupid looking". A much more accurate description is moronic looking!

I would like to see a front motor DP car though, with rear wheel drive.

For fun, check out another oddity @ the Rolex:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/make.../Cannibal.html

I believe it was a re-bodied Olds Aurora that raced as a Daytona Prototype.

Seems like I read an article in which the owner proudly stated "We never once put sticker tires on that car!".

[jacko241]

As a fan, I appreciate the innovation. And if it would have been competitive, it would have been awesome.

The delta wing is a penis with wheels. Katherine Legge drove the crap out of it though.

I can understand your appreciation of innovation. I think my problem is I am just too much of a conformist.

[jacko241]

> Actually surprised me at how well it does work (not that it works all that well).

>IMSA has varying air inlet restrictors to "balance performance". It is my understanding that it has been used to bolster the performance of that "car".

>It is my further understanding that it is largely balanced on the rear wheels, rather like a Segway with a front canard aiming device.

>Joe, what kind of verbiage is that? It is by no means "stupid looking". A much more accurate description is moronic looking!

I would like to see a front motor DP car though, with rear wheel drive.

For fun, check out another oddity @ the Rolex:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/make.../Cannibal.html

I believe it was a re-bodied Olds Aurora that raced as a Daytona Prototype.

Seems like I read an article in which the owner proudly stated "We never once put sticker tires on that car!".

That thing was for sale a loooooong time, just pure coyote ugly!
If you remember, the Panoz LMP cars were front engined.

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Re: Panoz

Another butt-ugly car, imo.

What is up with that anyway?

Typically a front engined car--long nose--short deck, is inherently good looking.

Modifieds are better looking than a Panoz, by a long shot.

ps--At the Rolex(s), I typically follow the leaders a little, but also pick a back marker or two and sort of pull for them also. The "Cannibal" was one such car.

As you know, Joe, sometimes I am a little odd myself...

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Ford had a front engined prototype car as well, as I recall.

Turbo four, as I recollect, when the SVO turbo mustang four cylinder jobs were theoretically their top model.

It too, never performed very well.

ps--Re: Joe/conformist...true, perhaps...but when that helmet goes on, his eyes take a hard set.

Do not under estimate Mr. Jacalone if he is behind you.

[jacko241]

Ford had a front engined prototype car as well, as I recall.

Turbo four, as I recollect, when the SVO turbo mustang four cylinder jobs were theoretically their top model.

It too, never performed very well.

ps--Re: Joe/conformist...true, perhaps...but when that helmet goes on, his eyes take a hard set.

Do not under estimate Mr. Jacalone if he is behind you.

I remember that car, too! You are too kind about me, you must be looking at a picture from about 20 years ago

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You scare me.

Of course, your Crew Chief, Kenny, also scares me...

(please wish him Happy Holidays for me)

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So in your guys opinion, will there ever be a front engined sports car designed that can be successful? I mean it can't be a financial issue or lack of resources causing the failure..

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Ford had a front engined prototype car as well, as I recall.

Turbo four, as I recollect, when the SVO turbo mustang four cylinder jobs were theoretically their top model.

It too, never performed very well

Is this the one you're talking about?

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I think that is the car. The front end and the paint seem familiar, but the greenhouse seems a little big.

Of course, it may be because I am used to looking at P Thomas' swoopy #111. Joe?

Re: Front engined cars--I believe they could work, certainly they would have a better chance than the ugly-A knee-san.

It is all about center weight, and really, you are only swapping the driver and the motor. The transaxle could still be in the rear.