NASCAR & Harvick--Right or Wrong?

[OldSchool+]

So, at Talladega, Kevin Harvick's engine was blowing up in the final stages of the race and his car could not keep up.

On the "it wasn't a restart" restart, the field blew by him.

On the official Green/White/Checker restart, he made contact with the 6 car of Trevor Bayne, and a large wreck and caution followed.

Result, Harv is in the next stage of The Chase. And, of course, one other person is not, maybe more.

Do you believe the NASCAR "no penalty for Harvick" (at least, thus far...) decision was right...or wrong?

[Benny The Mule]

I didn't watch the race but looked on Nascar.com after all of the chatter. He moved up the first time to get out of the way. He moved up the 2nd time to get out of the way and the 6 car was there. where does right or wrong come into play?

I think it's mostly the Jr fans mad. Maybe next year they will have 18 cars in the chase so he has a chance...........LOL.

[UREZ2PASS]

Only one person can answer that question and he said it was not intentional. Remember, Don't let your lying eyes fool you if you saw the video.

[OldSchool+]

"...where does right or wrong come into play?"--BTM

If he accidentally clipped the 6 car as he was getting out of the way--that would be considered "right", IMO.

If he intentionally clipped the 6 car to cause a caution before the field went by him, that would be "wrong", again, IMO.

The question is--Did NASCAR, who apparently agrees with Harvick, make the correct call?

ps--Am not a big Jr. fan.

[OldSchool+]

"Remember, Don't let your lying eyes fool you if you saw the video."--EZ

Um, what should we trust? Harvick's word?

[egspeedway]

Above all else kudos to Jr. for being a real man about all this. That is a big part of why his fans are so loyal. Congratulations to NASCAR for designing a format that is pure heaven for conspiracy theorists. At one point before the finish line it looked like Dale was ahead but without knowing where the loops are placed we are all at the mercy of NASCAR on that issue. My only question is how does a car with a dying motor gather enough speed to hit a car in front of them after the re-start. I will leave that one for the theorists.

[UREZ2PASS]

"Remember, Don't let your lying eyes fool you if you saw the video."--EZ

Um, what should we trust? Harvick's word?

He did turn the wheel, but there is no evidence or communication that it was done on purpose to cause the crash. We can speculate, but that's it.

[OldSchool+]

Agreed, speculatin' is what we are doing.

EG--Harvick hit Bayne in the LR quarter as Bayne was passing him.

Here is a question--If Harv was trying to get out of the way, why did he not drop to the rear of the field? If the car would only do 30 (or whatever), he was going to be at the end of the lead lap in 2 green flag laps anyway.

RE: Communication--Harv's crew chief told him their only chance was a caution after the line.

[Benny The Mule]

Agreed, speculatin' is what we are doing.

EG--Harvick hit Bayne in the LR quarter as Bayne was passing him.

Here is a question--If Harv was trying to get out of the way, why did he not drop to the rear of the field? If the car would only do 30 (or whatever), he was going to be at the end of the lead lap in 2 green flag laps anyway.

RE: Communication--Harv's crew chief told him their only chance was a caution after the line.

Along with my original response, I saw your poll as he wrecked on purpose (did what he had to do) or he wrecked on purpose and should be punished as the 2 selections.

My transmission could be hanging half out of my car and if i had a front starting position with a couple of laps to go i would start there regardless, which is what he did apparently.

[OldSchool+]

Benny,

Normally I would agree with you.

Flat left front at Showtime-no prob.

But would you start mid-pack with no motor at Talladega?

If you did, you might very well get run over, but if that did not happen, do you think the field could blow by you without you getting into one?

[jacko241]

No matter, Harvick is a jerk, he behaves like a jerk, talks like a jerk, and races like a jerk.

[Benny The Mule]

Benny,

Normally I would agree with you.

Flat left front at Showtime-no prob.

But would you start mid-pack with no motor at Talladega?

If you did, you might very well get run over, but if that did not happen, do you think the field could blow by you without you getting into one?

In today's world of (cough cough) spotter racing it would be safe to assume EVERYONE would know I'm blowing up. but yes, i would start in my position because at Talladega they can easily ALL wreck behind me with myself having nothing to do with it at all instead of blowing by me.

[Benny The Mule]

No matter, Harvick is a jerk, he behaves like a jerk, talks like a jerk, and races like a jerk.

Ummmm. Ya, pretty accurate statement.

[oslm6]

Wouldn't blame someone if they dumped Harvick to ruin his chances getting into the final chase.

[OldSchool+]

"...[If my car was blowing up] I would start in my position because at Talladega they can easily ALL wreck behind me with myself having nothing to do with it at all instead of blowing by me."--Benny

Indeed. And I would have no problem with Benny.

But of course, they didn't wreck behind Harvick.