Attention Q A&IA Pro Trucks & FASTRUCKs get ready for tech....

[OldSchool+]

To your point, it seems like it could simply be referred to as "the truck division".

As in, "the truck division will be running at Desoto this weekend."

Seems like the end result will be the same: The trucks pull in the gate, the fans go to see the trucks.

I would suggest using the terms "Fast Trucks" and "Pro Trucks" are more Bobby-style promoting, but like the old "TBARA", it adds little to the thought that "sprint cars are running at showtime this weekend". No offense to proponents of any of the above.

[racer4461]

Old School

As you can see from the Website and advertising, it is a Desoto Pro Truck race and not a Fastruck race as Mr. Diehl is claiming. Desoto Speedway has apparently realized what the facts are and acting accordingly.

Note, that racers will race Desoto no matter what series name it carries. Just like the racers from Southern Pro Am ran New Symrna with a great race.
Southern Pro Am Trucks is a valid series and is running some good events also with a printed set of rules and running as a true business with real tech inspection. Those that run that series are happy and content to keep doing what they are doing. They have a great future ahead. The homestead invitational road race on Nov 28, 29, 2015 at a nascar track is a big deal for truckers. Huge exposure to over 35,000 fans.

The last truck race at Desoto was a terrible race even though 31 trucks were there. Ridiculous tech where they checked minor items to include brakes!
Who are you kidding, CHECKING BRAKES??? has nothing to do with speed or lap times, Check the engines and tear them down to the dirt and lets look at the internals, light weigh cranks, pistons, wrist pins, head work, non gm camshafts. Lets be real! When the same trucks run up front every race give me a break there is definitely a red flag.

[Bobby Diehl]

I think its time that the pro truck division is made aware of certain facts.
Fastruck is operating under "false pretenses" The fastruck corporations that Mr. Diehl had in the past along with its "Ficitious Names" that were originally registered with the State of Florida Division of Corporations or go www.sunbiz.com (For Verification of Facts" are dissolved or inactive. The Fastruck, Inc. is inactive for Administrative Dissolution for Annual Report, 9/23/2011 With Mr. Diehl as Registered agent and President. INACTIVE CORPORATION!!!
Along with further research the The other Corporation Fastruck Racing, Inc. is also Inactive Dissolution for Annual Report as of 9/16/2005. The Ficitious Name Fastruck Inc. d/b/a Charlotte County Motorsports Park is an Expired d/b/a under either of those inactive corporations.

Upon further review, Driver Seat Racing, Inc. d/b/a Southern Pro Am Truck Series, d/b/a Fastruck, d/b/a Fastruck Next Generation, d/b/a Fastruck Pro Truck Series is a Valid Corporation Active and the Fictitious names are legal registered names owned by Drivers Seat Racing, Inc. Basically Southern Pro Am truck Series is a valid business with valid Federal Id Number and back account. That series is running as a business should be operated. With a real mission statement.

As a matter of fact, the Mr. Diehl and any of his group could be liable for operating under false pretenses with no Federal Id number, Bank Account Number and illegal use of registered business names. Having passed this information by a legal team, Mr. Diehl and the group need to "cease and desist the use of the fastruck name as they have no rights to the name any longer and if they continue using the name they need to govern themselves accordingly and be prepared for subsequent legal action to include seeking monetary damages for business interruption to include attorneys fees"

Mr Diehl is living in a dream world from the past operating a series that is not fully registered as a business currently.

When will the pro truck division that follows him realize that he is a fake. His past business record stands on its own merits. His actions are damaging the truck division.

Randy you have been saying this for 6 months. Get over it. I am not in business making money. Just a passion .
The love of Truck Racing. You need to get a life. Hope to see you in the #77 at Desoto this weekend.

[OldSchool+]

The Squaretops of the Blacktop!

[Bobby Diehl]

Don't you have to compete to be a competitor?????

That is absolutely ridiculous, no way would I want a fellow competitor performing tech on my truck. Tech should be performed by an independent non competitor.

Don't you have to compete to be a competitor????? Hope to see the #77 racing this weekend. Not just yapping about it.

[Truck84]

When has Spats put on good events? They ran one track and it's now closed. They got a race a New Symrna and cut the laps and pay and didn't qualify correct? And through the grape vine New Symrna said no more truck races there due to low truck count and a shit show. So thanks for ruining the chances for us to race there again. Three stumps isn't opening for months and who ever decides to open it up will be smart enough to Check what brings the most bang for there buck, and I doubt that Spats will get any races there. So where are these events taking place? Oh wait Homestead for no money and a 100% chance of blown trannys and motors(not made to turn right). So you can say there doing it illegally all you want but the fact is there isn't room for two truck series and from looking at the stats( payout, tracks, rules) Spats won't survive. But good luck maybe switching to dirt might be a good option!

[Weftracing96]

Well said Bill. Besides, if you want to road race, why fool around with a truck? Build a Chumpcar. 35,000 people at Homestead might see you, but don't think for a minute that it's going to get you a dime. Sure, it's cool. Might be fun to do it once for the novelty of it all. But tell me how this works long term. With no purse, it makes it a lot harder to pay the bills, and trannies aren't cheap. Feels way to much like a gimmick. But when you have no other track to race at, you have to do something I suppose to try and stay relevant.

[OldSchool+]

Weft, absolutely agree if you look at it from a "should I race at Desoto or Auburndale this month" perspective.

However, we all watch Cup, and they race on road courses. Many like the sporty cars as well.

And I agree, a manual trans seems a no brainer, and possibly something a little more aero than a racing facsimile of a construction vehicle.

But if you don't happen to have a spare Porsche lying around, and you do have a truck on a trailer, the Homestead deal maybe your only chance to feel "bigtime", with existing equipment.

It ain't for everybody, but it may be cool for some.

[Weftracing96]

Which is exactly why I said, might be fun to try and maybe do it for the experience. But you def don't need a Porsche. You can build s Chumpcar really cheap. To me, this just doesn't seem to fit long term. I'm more of a long term thinker.

[OldSchool+]

It is still kind of the same question:

I probably will lose "x" amount this weekend.

Is it worth it...?

[Eaglerace40]

Racer 444 whatever or should we just say Randy

I normally stay quiet on here for many many reasons but I can't take it anymore. Yes Randy we know you have friend at the Desoto office and it still hasn't helped you but let's address something's. First wouldn't you have to compete in an event to call someone a competitor? Second you complain about that, then boast about SPATS but your tech has been done by the uncle of one of the competitors and it has been done by the series owner who also owns trucks in the series and built yours. Third, let's be brutally honest here, dude you have to make it to tech and no one is standing in line to learn something from your truck. Forth you talk about the tech being done but let's bring up yours (and hurry you may to go run and amend your rules after this one) the SPATS series has no rule that allows for 603/zz4 motor(for those that don't know, they have aluminum heads) your rules also do not allow for aluminum heads on the built motors, your series owner has complained to the Desoto track owner saying that he can't run there with us because he can't keep up with the aluminum head motors but yet a good portion of your races have been won by trucks with 603's/aluminum heads. So you mean to tell me that while you where teching valve springs (which seems to be all you tech) you couldn't tell that the heads where aluminum? Or is this selective tech on who you allow to have them? Or most likely it is that your truck count is so bad that you really can't kick anyone out.

[CODY99]

Tech

I strongly disagree with the last post. When the 16k won the race and his uncle teched, he made sure that there were several other people capable of teching and several other drivers viewing to ensure he did a fair tech. I've been to several SPATS and FASTRUCK series races and nothing can compare to nights that man teched. As far as 603 being allowed, I have a copy of the rules that SPATS gave to all of their drivers and I will read them as soon as I get home today. In comparison, I have never been given or seen a documented set of rules for FASTRUCK. It clearly seems to be a he said, she said type of deal and apparently we can run whatever motor we like as long as it is "grandfathered in".

[OldSchool+]

Cody,

It would appear that there are two logical courses of action moving forward.

1) Write tech to match the current hot setups. Then enforce. The chips will fall where they may.

2) Add weight to the fast guys until the field is approximately even. Either with rules, or Yoho mini stock style--congratulate them and then inform them in victory lane that 75lb will be added to their car next week.

Number one is easier but just about guarantees a low truck count.

And number two is an argument every week.

Thoughts? A third option...?

[Eaglerace40]

Cody have you ever asked Danny for a set of rules? If not, try asking for them and I'm sure a set can be emailed to you, Also I never said there is anything wrong with King has a tech man, was meaning him looking at your truck is no different than a competitor looking at your truck. Then your last comment I am assuming that was meant towards Danny's motor but his motor rule is exactly the same now has it was in Coulter series. That can be proven. Also while you are reading the SPATS rules and commenting on motors, stop for minute and read the built motor rules, then read them again and realize that motor can be a 305 a 350 a 383 a 400, hmmmm try running against one of those if someone felt like building one

[CODY99]

I agree with you on that. But, if someone feels uncomfortable with another driver or owner teching them. That is understandable and that is why King had other people viewing what he was doing to make sure it was fair. As long as that person does everything correctly, it shouldn't matter who does tech.