New smyrna sportsman crash

[ancrdave]

If you were there (which most of you weren't), Scott Bramlett came to the tower and asked to be interviewed. At no time did he mention the #21 car of Mike Dahm... he simply said the crash was the fault of only good hard racing and did not blame Wood for it either... he was most upset that other cars got damaged then wanted to make sure to thank the track fire crew for assessing the situation quickly and making sure everyone was safe and the area around the crash secured before they started removing cars.

I think you guys have a legitimate beef that slower cars either should not be allowed to start or should pull off after a lap or two... The deal with allowing Super Stocks to run the Sportsman is like a catch 22 for the track since other tracks can do likewise to help their drivers out in the points.

Don't gripe too much about the Dahms... They actually show up EVERY week and, yes, they aren't fast, but there are there, pay their money to get in and never intentionally get in the way of anybody from what I've seen. Mike's Super Stock was actually running very good earlier this year until he blew the engine up and they had to install an old engine... By the way, if you want them to go faster, throw some sponsor money their way so we could really see what they could do...

[shorttrackcar1]

well Dave I was there and I don't think Scott was going to get on the mike and start throwing the 21 under the bus in front of everybody . like I said before I don't care that they show up every week the dahms . trust me nobody comes out to watch them . get lapped 6 or more times in a 25 lap race the problem is they are not sportsman car .and should be told to stay in their class. and should have never been on the track! when you have two cars racing side by side and enter into the corner and you have a car going that slow you have a problem. DCpaintings that's your opinion on what happen if the 21 had not been there the wreck would have not happen. I saw it coming when Scott and the 1 car were side by side going into 3 I knew the 21 would not be out of the way as fast as they were going and you say you were spotting for two cars ? Scott and your son wow is that safe? maybe you were looking at your son at the time maybe that was the problem . if Scott needs a spotter next time I am sure someone in the stands can do it I saw a few racers sitting in the stands .

[Dcpaintingllc]

Not opinion straight from Scott's mouth when he was at my house and we both watched video of what happen I don't post on here a lot and don't know the dahms never met them just don't want to see somebody get blamed for something they didn't do and thanks Dave instead of running people off why don't somebody help them up instead of pushing them down at least they got a car and are supporting new smryna instead of bashing

[dcjrracing11]

Here is the replay from my car saturday night running p4 behind all of it

https://youtu.be/0cj8HXtbFxA

[shorttrackcar1]

you were nice enough to offer Patrick your car why don't you give them a hand maybe let them run your sportsman car in a couple sportsman races? listen I am not saying they shouldn't race. just race only there class only or why not let the them race in the prolate class you see where this is going ? for the last time they need to stay in their class .

[Dcpaintingllc]

We're still new Patrick has been setting up our car and working hard on our car every week with us to get car fast and Scott Bramlett has helped us for years racing so I'm not the one to help them as I need help myself I work 7 days a week but I'm not bashing we need every car in this sport why don't you just go talk to them maybe their nice people after all and just wanna race on the budget they have. Certainly can't blame somebody for trying at least their out their in a car I see your point I really do we were one of the slow cars when my son was young causing wrecks and being in the way and nobody would help us then. But now I've been blessed to have great people around us racing and Patrick and Scott would give their setup tricks to anybody that ask for help I've seen them do it I just wanna see sport grow to many tracks shutting down we do this for fun it's a privilege for us to be able to race as not everybody can afford to do it but all negativity doesn't help the tracks

[OldSchool+]

The Rules

There is a rule book.

There are officials that interpret the rule book and administer the rules.

If they determine a car to be legal, it is legal. If the flagman and officials determine a car to be running a legal speed, again, it is legal.

For the rest of the peanut gallery, one has to choose to walk up to the front or back gate and pay their money. You will then watch a given track run the classes they have chosen for the evening with cars that they have deemed to be legal to be on the track.

Simple, really.

Remember, witch hunts never seem to run out of "witches".

[WoodRacing33]

I was spotting for the 22 car scott Bramlett and the 11 car which is my son who was right behind the 22 car those two cars you are talking about had nothibpg to do with the wreck I also have video front and back of my car to prove it the reason why the wreck happen was rough driving nobody's giving anybody any room the car outside of scott was into the side of Scott's car and hooked him and sent scott into wall scott has a picture of the car outside on lap 3 not giving room when scott was clearly faster Scott wants to talk at next drivers meeting about sportsman car to race cleaner not trying to win it on lap 3 and give room we don't need to keep rubbing into each other to win 400 dollars our car the 11 has been wrecked of some sort 7 weeks in a row it's getting old

That video doesn't prove anything? Its called racing those things happen. Maybe as his spotter you should have informed him that the lap car was coming up and sitting right in his line. The 1 car shouldn't have to stop running his line because your too busy spotting for two cars. Anyone with eyes saw scott come up into the 1's line to try and avoid the lap car so he wouldn't be picked off by the lap car. But I seem to remember the 1 car and your son running side by side for several laps in the previous race and only touching once, and heard you tell him over the radio that it was just racing and it happens? Also, when Scott asked to be interviewed he said himself it was good hard racing, you know that thing the fans come to watch, try running single file so you can avoid damage and see how many people show up.

[DPRacecars]

I was spotting for the 22 car scott Bramlett and the 11 car which is my son who was right behind the 22 car those two cars you are talking about had nothibpg to do with the wreck I also have video front and back of my car to prove it the reason why the wreck happen was rough driving nobody's giving anybody any room the car outside of scott was into the side of Scott's car and hooked him and sent scott into wall scott has a picture of the car outside on lap 3 not giving room when scott was clearly faster Scott wants to talk at next drivers meeting about sportsman car to race cleaner not trying to win it on lap 3 and give room we don't need to keep rubbing into each other to win 400 dollars our car the 11 has been wrecked of some sort 7 weeks in a row it's getting old

That video doesn't prove anything? Its called racing those things happen. Maybe as his spotter you should have informed him that the lap car was coming up and sitting right in his line. The 1 car shouldn't have to stop running his line because your too busy spotting for two cars. Anyone with eyes saw scott come up into the 1's line to try and avoid the 21 car so he wouldn't be picked off by him. But I seem to remember the 1 car and your son running side by side for several laps in the previous race and only touching once, and heard you tell him over the radio that it was just racing and it happens? Also, when Scott asked to be interviewed he said himself it was good hard racing, you know that thing the fans come to watch, try running single file so you can avoid damage and see how many people show up.

-Posting for WoodRacing33

[Dcpaintingllc]

Video show how low the car was to not be a factor like everybody was blaming them I don't think Derrick wood wrecked us week before either both cars were running side by side for several laps running clean got that video to I just like people commenting that don't drive race cars so don't know what really happens inside of cars don't think Derrick caused wreck either just racing in video jim jones snaps a pic you can see photo flash of position of bothe cars my comment was racing hard in beginning of races and respecting each other's line. Don't need to beat and bang on lap 3 you don't win races on lap 3 last time I checked and I didn't want innocent people being blamed for something they didn't do and isn't one of those cars like top in points that y'all are blaming and for record Scott's wife was spotting but was first time spotting so I was helping her we have same channels on radio for a reason Scott seen the car low and I did warn him but said car was to far in front to be a factor in the beginning of video I didn't post you see cars bumping going down the straight away on lap 1 and two

[Lightening Mcqueen]

Just watched the video posted from the 11. I was there, I have driven sportsman cars and have spotted for modifieds and super lates. Anyone who thinks that wreck had anything to do with the 21 is nuts. He gave the leaders way more room than he even had to.

[al_tere_go_05]

the 21 pays the entry fee and signs in as a sportsman, has the same tires as sportsman, his chassis is legal for sportsman, the body is legal in sportsman. Seems to me that he should be allowed to enter as a sportsman. You guys must not have seen the pro late model race because there was a sportsman running in that. or maybe its your guys double standards.

[jacko241]

the 21 pays the entry fee and signs in as a sportsman, has the same tires as sportsman, his chassis is legal for sportsman, the body is legal in sportsman. Seems to me that he should be allowed to enter as a sportsman.

I agree completely.

[shorttrackcar1]

what about the nights they run strictly stock, sportsman and super stock class on the same night with the same car ? they sign in in each class and pay extra ? and they do not have the same chassis nobody that is competitive is running a metric chassis with a 7.5 rear end in the sportsman class. where have you been with your modified Joe they need all the cars they can get for the mod class? they had what 8 Saturday night . I am not sure didn't bother watching them .

[al_tere_go_05]

the car that they run in strictly stock is not the same one that they run in super stock and sportsman. Also a metric frame is not illegal in sportsman.

why is it every time the leaders do something stupid everyone wants to blame a lapped car that was not at fault? Last years gov cup the sportsmans had a wreck that took out 1/2 the field. then the first race of the season they took out 1/ the field on the first lap. Lets start blaming the dumb asses up front.