Public Announcement: How to stay Alive in the Grandstands

[Lurkin]

They just got rid of like 30 rows of grandstands down low near the fence with this Daytona Rising project, good thing. Seems like everything worked pretty well to me.

[exnyer]

Well someone that does know what they are talking about.
It took many years to get the cars so they would break apart and the drivers aera built to protect the driver.
Thumbs up exnyer

don62

Thank you Don!

I hate to say it but, there is a trade off on safety for fan experience. Sure the fence could have fine mesh cloth over it, that would stop any and all debris from leaving the track to the fan seating area but then the fans would not be able to see thru it. The other option is to move the fans higher but, then they will complain that they are too far away and want to be closer. Unfortunaly in this situation there is no common ground.

[jacko241]

OS, I think a chicane on the back straight would be awesome. It would slow them down, and sure as heck promote a lot more passing.

[Don Nerone]

They just got rid of like 30 rows of grandstands down low near the fence with this Daytona Rising project, good thing. Seems like everything worked pretty well to me.

Loosing seats in not the answer. The last man killed at INDY was on the top row .
The sport for a fan and driver will never be 100% safe.
If that is what ur looking for video games would be for you.
I think with the new mind set that the governments job is to keep us safe from our self will end all sports.
More kids are hurt playing football and baseball than any fan in the stands.
Think !!!!

don62

[Boneman]

In past years, there would likely have been fans standing next to the catch fence where the car hit. However, the recent construction made spectator access to that area off limits, and that alone may have saved lives in this case.

I like the idea of losing the lowest seats in the tri-oval area, especially after the finish line. The performance of the catch fence will be studied too, so there may be further improvements coming as a result. Eliminate the danger? Never. Why not reduce it when possible?

Maybe all the fans should just wear bike helmets? The government thinks they are safe.

[Lurkin]

So it would be safer to have seats 10 feet away from the fence than 40 feet back from the fence?

Edit: That was directed a Nerone.

[Don Nerone]

So it would be safer to have seats 10 feet away from the fence than 40 feet back from the fence?

Edit: That was directed a Nerone.

40 would be safer..
would 400 be even safer??
Lets fix it for sure. Only tv races and no fans . that will fix it for sure.
Opps the drivers. Well we are back to the robit in the car.
Try to get the kids safe from sports and bikes and net the pros at NASCAR do there jobs.


Don62

[Don Nerone]

In past years, there would likely have been fans standing next to the catch fence where the car hit. However, the recent construction made spectator access to that area off limits, and that alone may have saved lives in this case.

I like the idea of losing the lowest seats in the tri-oval area, especially after the finish line. The performance of the catch fence will be studied too, so there may be further improvements coming as a result. Eliminate the danger? Never. Why not reduce it when possible?

Maybe all the fans should just wear bike helmets? The government thinks they are safe.

Sprints with 5hp briggs. sounds safe to me.

don62

[Lurkin]

Also there have been other fatalities at Indy since 1987 when the wheel of Tony Bettenhausen's car went up into the top row and killed that guy, but yes he was the last "spectator" killed by debris. But since then tremendous strides have been made including tethers on a lot things, and higher fences, soft walls...and moving people back.

We've all seen these great advances in safety improvements which make it safer so government doesn't have to step in, hopefully. Should we bury our heads in the sand because racing is safer than football now? If they hadn't beefed up the fences after 30 people were injured when Larsen got into the fence a few years ago we might be having a very different, and sad, conversation right now. I applaud napcar because I don't wanna see racing restricted to video games.

[kendo]

I applaud napcar .

Heck,telling viewers 10 times to seek immediate medical attention for an erection lasting more than 4 hours alone probably saved a few lives.