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Here is what a 3 palms employee thnks of circle track racers
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In all probability you will lose money on the evening.
I think the verb is wrong here. When you decide to race, you know it's an entertainment, so you do not loose money, you spend money, to have fun, and sometimes, some of it come back in purses, point funds, and sponsorship, which you cannot have in other entertainment(s). So on this side, we're lucky.
When you start loosing your shirt in racing, that is when you step in waaaaay over your head, like in an addiction. Now the problem is not racing, it's how you approach it.André Fortin
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Originally posted by Matt Albee View PostFirst off, she's not 3 Palms Speedway, she is apparently the pit gate person. So her opinions are not necessarily the tracks opinions. And she's certainly entitled to her opinions. Unlike most of the people who post here, she actually has interacted with both the stock car guys as well as the drifting guys.
I'm a little suspicious of her real purpose in making and posting the video. I think there may be a little more to the story than her just trying to be famous among her 6 friends on facebook. For instance, who found such an obscure post and then decided to send it around the internet?
She is correct in what she says. The oval guys whine about unfair tech, about unfair rules, about being outrun by big money, or big motors. The oval guys want to drag their fellow racers down to their level instead of upping their game to go faster. The oval guys constantly complain about payouts, and if payouts aren't up to their liking, they just stay home. By the way, i happen to agree with that part. The payouts from this past Saturday night, all across Florida, were about the same or lower than the payouts 20 years ago. But we've discussed that before.
The drift guys, and the drag racers, and the tractor pull guys, the moto X guys, and all the other forms of racing just show up and race. The oval track guys are arguing over whether or not a fabricated firewall or an aftermarket sway bar bracket is legal. And if the other guy has one, and you don't, then it's illegal.
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I only watched about the first few minutes of this "woman" griping about circle-trackers.
I've read through all of the posts here, and the only one that has any sense is Andre'.
You guys all seem to forget that local Saturday-night short track racers do this for a *HOBBY* - which means, in most cases, you *ain't* gonna MAKE any money in this "sport". We, as enthusiasts, put TONS of money into our equipment to entertain the fans every week - and get very little return on investment.
My dad and family have been involved in this hobby ever since I can remember, and as a crew/crew chief/driver since 1974. Only *two years* out of the forty that we've been racing did we *make* any money - AND put on a show by coming from the back every week.
Part of the reason short track racing *sucks* today, in my opinion, is *time trials* every week, then starting the field straight up. :/ Go back to HEAT races, and let the fans see MORE racing for their entertainment dollar. The drivers, in turn, get some more laps on the track. Start the high-point guys in the back - again, to ENTERTAIN the fans and put on a show.
With a SHOW, the fans come. When the fans come, the car count should start picking up. When the car count starts picking up, the payout should go up accordingly. And when the payout goes up, the car count should pick *way* up. More cars (up to a point, of course) = more *racing* - better show, and the cycle comes back around. When the payouts pick up, the racers are happy - and should be a lot more...well..."nicer"<?> to track personnel.
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Originally posted by OldSchool+ View PostEssentially my meaning.
So, either the place/purse is equitable or not.
It is like eating at a fancy joint. I don't.
But I wouldn't go to one and ask/expect Steak n Shake pricing.
I just go to SnS.Joe Jacalone
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Originally posted by scottgarrity07 View PostUmmm, when you said this. I must have misread this. Wait, no I don't think I did.
I should have structured my paragraphs a little differently so you could follow along.
My mistake.
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Originally posted by JC26 View PostThis has got to be the most trolling post of the century. I'm pretty sure you bitch and whine more than all the racers collectively on this forum.
You're leading handily in the categories of Drama Queen and Exaggeration. Not so much in the Syntax category.
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Originally posted by Matt Albee View PostUmmm? Looks like your teachers let you down in writing as well as reading skills.
I should have structured my paragraphs a little differently so you could follow along.
My mistake.Last edited by scottgarrity07; 04-28-2015, 09:20 AM.
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