had a great time at Bronson last Saturday night

[Scott Prentice]

Pure Stock race was good with a nice field of cars.
A bunch of Strickly Stocks were there too.

Limited Late Models (Sportsmen) are the headlining class this season- bring it boys, quick chznges legal!

Hope a bunch of Modifieds this weekend- Tommy Dunford Memorial- 50 laps, $1000 to win! BRING IT!!!

[Scott Prentice]

Modifieds 50 laps $1000 to win tonight

Weather is looking good for tonight, only a small chance of rain around 4:30 or so, then clear.
Looking to see a good Modified race and hope a bunch of cars and fans make it!

[Scott Prentice]

Limited Late Models (Sportsmen) are the headlining class this season- bring it boys, quick chznges legal!

*quick changes

[scottgarrity07]

No weight penalty for quick changes?

[Scott Prentice]

Hey Scott

No weight penalty for quick changes?

No weight penalty, and 7 1/4 triple disk clutch ok too.

here's the rules from their facebook page- hope you can maybe get up there this season!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/914050595312267/

[scottgarrity07]

No weight penalty, and 7 1/4 triple disk clutch ok too.

here's the rules from their facebook page- hope you can maybe get up there this season!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/914050595312267/

What is it with that place. One step forward, one step back. They eliminate the quick change penalty (nobody else had one). Now they allow the super clutch (nobody else allows it anymore). First rule change made me want to come up and race, second rule change will keep me away though...JUST MAKE YOUR FRIGGIN' RULES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE'S!!!

[ocalasp76]

What is it with that place. One step forward, one step back. They eliminate the quick change penalty (nobody else had one). Now they allow the super clutch (nobody else allows it anymore). First rule change made me want to come up and race, second rule change will keep me away though...JUST MAKE YOUR FRIGGIN' RULES LIKE EVERYONE ELSE'S!!!

I see that as a Pro LM with a 2 barrel.. JMO..
And this rule change came out ONE WEEK before the first race.. SMH ..
-GYM-

[scottgarrity07]

I see that as a Pro LM with a 2 barrel.. JMO..
And this rule change came out ONE WEEK before the first race.. SMH ..
-GYM-

Pretty much identical to the old Limited Late Model rules (of which there are ZERO left out there). I just don't get their mindset, Jim.

[OldSchool+]

Scott, I assume that it is a reciprocating weight deal?

That is, I assume everyone gets their (single disk?) clutch to hold , but the "7 1/4 triple disk" unit provides holding power at a lower weight.

Lower reciprocating weight = ability to rev quicker.

Do I have that right?

At any rate, the question is why rulesmakers would do that, and I will bet it was at the request of a guy or two that already have them.

What about a list of names that will not be able to make it because they are not going to change a clutch (and spend the money to do it) just to race there.

Maybe some impact...

[scottgarrity07]

Scott, I assume that it is a reciprocating weight deal?

That is, I assume everyone gets their (single disk?) clutch to hold , but the "7 1/4 triple disk" unit provides holding power at a lower weight.

Lower reciprocating weight = ability to rev quicker.

Do I have that right?

At any rate, the question is why rulesmakers would do that, and I will bet it was at the request of a guy or two that already have them.

What about a list of names that will not be able to make it because they are not going to change a clutch (and spend the money to do it) just to race there.

Maybe some impact...

You are spot on, Old School. 20 lbs less reciprocating weight at the back of the crank is HUGE! A brief history, only the old Punta Gorda track allowed them on Sportsman. FUPS (what a dead name for a series) allowed them with a 100 lb penalty. When Desoto reopened with the old PGS people running it they allowed it too with the 100 lbs. Now nobody allows it except now Bronson. There can't be many PGS teams going to BMS. The Limiteds that also ran it have been dead since '08. It's asinine. It will keep more cars away than draws. Even if you have one you also have a stock one if you still run anywhere. Problem is Bronson guys who want that huge advantage with no weight penalty and the money will spend the extra $1000+ to get it. I race to win. I will not show up without one or spend an extra $1000+ to race for $400 to win at a track I rarely go to. It's too bad. I love Bronson's layout.

[Don Nerone]

You are spot on, Old School. 20 lbs less reciprocating weight at the back of the crank is HUGE! A brief history, only the old Punta Gorda track allowed them on Sportsman. FUPS (what a dead name for a series) allowed them with a 100 lb penalty. When Desoto reopened with the old PGS people running it they allowed it too with the 100 lbs. Now nobody allows it except now Bronson. There can't be many PGS teams going to BMS. The Limiteds that also ran it have been dead since '08. It's asinine. It will keep more cars away than draws. Even if you have one you also have a stock one if you still run anywhere. Problem is Bronson guys who want that huge advantage with no weight penalty and the money will spend the extra $1000+ to get it. I race to win. I will not show up without one or spend an extra $1000+ to race for $400 to win at a track I rarely go to. It's too bad. I love Bronson's layout.

So tell me why a lot of the SLM want to a new 7 1\4 12 lb clutch when there rule is 5'' and half the weight.
a light clutch is not as good as you might think at that track.
At Bronson a 4412 Holly would be better than a 750.
I know that this stuff wont make any sence to many of you but check it out.
and for those of you that do sorry for letting the cat out of the bag.


don62

[Scott Prentice]

I race to win. I will not show up without one or spend an extra $1000+ to race for $400 to win at a track I rarely go to. It's too bad. I love Bronson's layout.

Scott, according to my 2015 Performance Parts Supply catalogue, page 85, a brand new Quarter Master 3 disk 7 1/4" complete clutch assembly is $577.10- I understand that is not inexpensive, but it is not $1000.00.

BTW; it was another good night of racing at Bronson this past Saturday. Mod field was light but was a good race- Gary Southard still has it as a driver, Robbie Cooper kept him honest.
Limited Late Models had a nice turnout- 11 cars- and put on a good show. Strickly and Pure Stocks had 14 and 11 cars. Need to get a few more Street Stocks out there....

[scottgarrity07]

Scott, according to my 2015 Performance Parts Supply catalogue, page 85, a brand new Quarter Master 3 disk 7 1/4" complete clutch assembly is $577.10- I understand that is not inexpensive, but it is not $1000.00.

$700 and change for the real light one, $150 for the ultra light flexplate and around $200 for the throwout bearing. Go big or go home. I won't stay home, I'll just go to Desoto...

[Scott Prentice]

$700 and change for the real light one, $150 for the ultra light flexplate and around $200 for the throwout bearing. Go big or go home. I won't stay home, I'll just go to Desoto...

well good luck to you this season there- I wish it wasn't so far from me but 4+ hours is too much of a drive, LoL- I don't even like having to drive 2 to get to Bronson.
BTW- what ever happened to the plans for Lake City/Ellisville in 2015, did you hear anything when you raced there last November?

[ss82]

Scott, Desoto is still allowing a 7 1/4" with a 100lbs penalty. Auburndale does also with a 100lbs penalty. Although I'm not sure if you still have to lose 1% left side or not, at the 75 lapper everyone was at 56% left side. The tech man at Showtime told me to bring it with the 100lbs penalty, but that was at the end of last year before my crash, so I'm not sure about this years rules.