NSS World Series Night Two Updates...

[ModelCarMan]

It is frightening what they are trying to put that fire out with. There is one guy standing there spraying a pisser on a car that is engulfed in flames. God forbid the guy was hurt and didn't get out of the car, the track HAS to get some better fire equipment.

I noticed that to. Can't believe that's what they had to put that fire out like this one!

[Matt Albee]

Wait till the NASCAR brass see these photos. A 20 year old pick-up truck, a dune buggy, and 2 handheld extinguishers. Not to mention the state of the art fire suits the rescue team is wearing. I'm not sure how long NASCAR is going to want their name ( such as it is ) associated with that type of back woods scene.
I've read that NSS has some top flight EMS and firefighters, and i know they are from some of the rescues they've made. But they need a track owner who's more interested in giving them the best equipment to work with, not on the bare minimum he can spend.

[83earnhardt]

What the pictures don't show you is that NSS has a foam spraying setup on the firetruck which is relatively new Toyota. The spray foam put the fire out right away. The buggy for those of you who fail to realize it even after you have been there is the IMMEDIATE response and was there quickly. They busted a fuel cell, 22 gallons of fuel was everywhere. Don't criticize if you weren't there. Ask your favorite tracks if they have any kind of spray foam equipment on there truck I KNOW you will be surprised with the answer.

[shorttrackcar1]

well from the pics doesn't look like their foam did much of anything. the car is burnt to the ground. its a good thing the driver was able to get out . and I am sorry A pickup truck is not a fire truck I don't care how new it is. or how many fire extinguishers you can load in the back.

[OldSchool+]

Slow clean up. Slow track calls. Slow show. Questionable safety equipment.

Mr Garrity tells me things have changed, but amazingly all of the above are long traditions at NSS.

Perhaps the incident will be the catalyst for additional change moving forward.

The unfortunate incident that ended LeeRoy Porter's career should not have happened in the first place, and clearly should never have to happen again.

RACERS, LET THIS BE YOUR WAKEUP CALL! YOUR safety is first and foremost YOUR responsibility.

Congratulations to Jordan Ives for making it out in good shape and a special thanks to The Man Upstairs.

[Matt Albee]

What the pictures don't show you is that NSS has a foam spraying setup on the firetruck which is relatively new Toyota. The spray foam put the fire out right away. The buggy for those of you who fail to realize it even after you have been there is the IMMEDIATE response and was there quickly. They busted a fuel cell, 22 gallons of fuel was everywhere. Don't criticize if you weren't there. Ask your favorite tracks if they have any kind of spray foam equipment on there truck I KNOW you will be surprised with the answer.

You're right, the photos don't show the foam setup....on the " fairly new " Toyota or in use. Must not have had any foam in it. And the real question should be, does your favorite track use the spray foam equipment it supposedly has. I'm very surprised at the answer from NSS.
Again, not knocking anybody in the photos, or the rescue/fire/safety crews on site at NSS. But damn, that track needs to spend some money on the things that matter. And nothing matters more than the safety of the drivers and fans. We won't even go into the exhaust tubing and rusty wires/cables used as safety fencing over there.

[UREZ2PASS]

So what short track in this state has the proper equipment and manpower to extinguish a 22 gallon fuel fire ?

Here's your answer armchair idiots.

None.

[Matt Albee]

Well alrighty then, no need to check and see who has the equipment, that settles it.

[OldSchool+]

Worse things could happen than a fuel cell winding up between 3 & 4.

Many times I have been there and the "action" was down the front stretch.

Billie Harvey (may he rest in peace) completely climbed above the wall and the fence thankfully held the car.

Dickie Anderson had an unfortunate deal recently that involved heading for the front stretch wall, and crowd.

If "the usual" ain't good enough, it ain't good enough.

[OldSchool+]

ps--Have you seen the fence & walls at Daytona recently?

Time runs together, but I believe within the last 10 years both were beefed up significantly--at least by a power of two, if not more.

That was before Larson's car coming apart, and that initiated more changes.

The new stands and escalators and wide floors between levels are beautiful, but you can no longer walk by the fence. Period. All entry is via the rear of the stands. This is in the new area, and I presume it will be in the remainder when it is completed.

I kind of missed that, especially where the sporty cars exit the infield back onto the bank, but that is the new way of doing things.

Further, I think they are going to remove 30 feet or so of grandstand closest to the track eventually, also for safety.

And it is beyond safety. There is liability to be considered as well.

One person hurt and the very photos shown above would be tough in front of a jury.

As mentioned, this incident may very well work out for the best in the long run.

[egspeedway]

It is frightening what they are trying to put that fire out with. There is one guy standing there spraying a pisser on a car that is engulfed in flames. God forbid the guy was hurt and didn't get out of the car, the track HAS to get some better fire equipment.

Was there the night Marion Edwards was killed. They didn't even have the pisser. I never attended another Julian Klein promotion again.

[UREZ2PASS]

Matt "Desotoboy" Allbee,

Lets start with Desoto.

What do they have for equipment and manpower.

[Lurkin]

I'd like to see pix of NSS's foam truck, it's probably better than anything at any short track I've been to. Until you see a 22 gallon tank rupture and go up you just can't fully believe it, though these pics certainly do it justice. There was a Late Model that burned down like that at Lake City about 20 years ago, I forget who it was and luckily he got out but it was scary. I feel for all involved, including the track and it's insurance payments that might go up.

[Matt Albee]

Matt "Desotoboy" Allbee,

Lets start with Desoto.

What do they have for equipment and manpower.

An adequate amount of each. But as we all know, every track could probably use more. And some tracks could use a lot more.
Okay, we started with Desoto, which track next?

[UREZ2PASS]

An adequate amount of each. But as we all know, every track could probably use more. And some tracks could use a lot more.
Okay, we started with Desoto, which track next?

Adequate ? Highly doubtful for a 22 gallon fuel spill. You would need a fully equipped fire engine to be able to extinguish that amount of fire quickly.

Does Desoto have a fire engine at the track. If so, that's great !

Please give us facts, not albeeisms.