The end of Stock Car Racing at Speed World

[Phil Jacques]

If Donnie needs advice on classes to run he needs plan a meeting and talk to the drivers that race down here at osw . Phil you have A ideal about alternating classes that's funny that's nothing new. that's what they were doing before ozzy took over .

And I took the idea from Oxford Plains Speedway in Maine...

There is nothing that any track in FL is doing that hasn't already be done.

I agree, Donnie does need to set a meeting. Even if it means cancel the rest of 2014 and re-group for 2015. But the phone works both ways... Pick it up and call him and suggest it. Be part of the solution my man! That's all I am trying to get into peoples heads. They have the power to help and the power to hurt. It's easier to hurt. I chose to try and Help which is the kind of person I am. If I was at the track and any of you guys had an issue and I had the part or tool. Come see me! You are more than welcome. Better yet, I'll come help you lol! That's how I am. Now maybe you understand why I fight so hard for the tracks and drivers.

[Phil Jacques]

Phil, It is currently in vogue to run different stuff each week.

Maybe I am old fashioned but I personally prefer the same classes every week and believe that would be key to slowly building a steady base of cars and fans.

Showtime mixes it up, and I show up for particular shows accordingly.

Shortrack--When I went to the recent modified show the facilites were acceptable. Theoretically it will have to be fairly decent to appeal to the wine-and-cheese Ferrari types that will be zooming around.

Maybe they will run figure eights. I would show up for that!

Well I agree, I like seeing the same stuff every week too. But here was my thought behind the suggestion.

OSW is struggling. If they were to switch to Sundays, and alternate weeks, maybe some guys would be willing to run 2 times in 1 week twice a month if they could afford it, or if tracks rained out Saturday they could go get their fix on Sunday.

Just trying to give helpful suggestions or ideas. That's all I ever try to do. People just like to shit on me lol It's all good

[UREZ2PASS]

Really ? How many times in the last three years did anybody on this thread actually go to the track, pay to get in, or for that matter race.

Gotta stick up for dd39 on this though, he was there more than any of the current MOUTHS on here.

Y'all talk all you want but unless you were there, you don't have much ground to stand on. You DID NOT SUPPORT THE TRACK.

[Phil Jacques]

Really ? How many times in the last three years did anybody on this thread actually go to the track, pay to get in, or for that matter race.

Gotta stick up for dd39 on this though, he was there more than any of the current MOUTHS on here.

Y'all talk all you want but unless you were there, you don't have much ground to stand on. You DID NOT SUPPORT THE TRACK.

If I was in FL I would have been there as much as I could be. I support in the ways I can though. I do my best to support and tout ALL of Florida racing. Can definitely see that if you were to follow me on FB. Unfortunately, I am where I am currently and I do what I can. If there was racing scheduled the two times I was down there in 2014, I would have been there. I went to NSS in July I support all I can.

[UREZ2PASS]

Just trying to give helpful suggestions or ideas. That's all I ever try to do. People just like to shit on me lol It's all good

Come home dude, you can't save Florida racing on the Internet. LOL !

All kidding aside, you have some good ideas.

Boneman is the ambassador of Florida racing, but you very may well overthrow him when you move back.

[Phil Jacques]

Come home dude, you can't save Florida racing on the Internet. LOL !

All kidding aside, you have some good ideas.

Boneman is the ambassador of Florida racing, but you very may well overthrow him when you move back.

lol! Not looking to overthrow anyone. Just want to help out.

I would love to come home... Was planning to do so the end of this year but I got a raise that made it worth staying here and advancing my career just a little bit more. The new plan is for the end of next year as long as I can find work in my field. I dropped the FL car off at the chassis shop last night to have the chassis gone over and the front clip done, so I am definitely committed lol!

[OldSchool+]

"...I am definitely committed..."--PJ

It all makes sense now. Eat your soup, stay calm, we'll send flowers.

[Phil Jacques]

"...I am definitely committed..."--PJ

It all makes sense now. Eat your soup, stay calm, we'll send flowers.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!

[shorttrackcar1]

urezz I have been there at osw every race rain or shine .

[scott bertram]

Really ? How many times in the last three years did anybody on this thread actually go to the track, pay to get in, or for that matter race.

Gotta stick up for dd39 on this though, he was there more than any of the current MOUTHS on here.

Y'all talk all you want but unless you were there, you don't have much ground to stand on. You DID NOT SUPPORT THE TRACK.

I was there, I did offer help..... shit we as a family offered to come mow/weed eat/ paint/ whatever when the lease first transferred. I wasn't taken up on that offer. i did run the 1 and only SLM race Ozzie had. we did watch in the stands even after my class was clearly not coming back. i get the diehard OSW crew (maybe 10 people) that want to blame the direction the track went on people that didn't support the track, i also get why people aren't spending hard earned $ on watching support classes with minimal car counts. it's a business that in order to succeed has to provide a service people want. it also has the responsibility of bringing fans in, Ozzie will advertise non stop for drag events/drift events. So he gets what needs to be done....... when that slm race was planned last yr. like 3 weeks in advance (on top of another popular race that was planned @ the beginning of the season) no advertising was done until 1 week prior, meanwhile the drag track was already advertising for an annual event (that just happened the week before) a year in advance. the current gm at that time pushed hard for that race, he caught a lot of shit from people (admittedly me being 1) about how things were ran. After all the dust settled it was clear the gm was fighting for us but Ozzie wasn't hearing it. i'm all for helping, supporting, and racing there. but the 2 yrs worth of broken promises to drivers and fans don't exactly make that easy. even this yr. when they announced the divisions that were going to be on schedule people were very clear that they wanted other divisions as well.... that was heard but not dealt with. lets be real..... if you have track # 1 running street stocks, bombers,4cyl., and mods .....track # 2 running slm,ss,bombers,4cyl., mods .....track #3 plm,ss,bombers,pt, all the same admission fee where are you going? #2 or 3 this is what you have seen so far this yr. support divisions don't cut it with the fans, low car counts either. don't get it? go to showtime sat. sounds like they are doing "what cant be done".....curious what the stands look like..... i know what the pits will be. another thing that might be a little hard to understand..... transparency./ pr/ communication. the basis of every business. cant draw people in that don't know anything thats going on. it shouldn't be top secret, it shouldn't require other people to disclose info, and fans shouldn't have to investigate...... Phil has gave more info than the track has, before that boneman used to, when does the track start? alot of people don't even know about karnac, some don't do facebook, so take a look what those people see. everything that they don't do / cant afford to do/or is not possible is being done at other tracks including the track next door. i have no doubts on Donnie's intentions (don't know him), but its hard to do with handcuffs on. maybe we will get lucky and Donnie will accomplish getting the cuffs off. i'm just another one waiting..........

[Matt Albee]

If you go back to OSW threads from 10 years ago, you'll see the same complaints, just the names are different. OSW never really seemed to do much advertising. They always seemed to use the very least expensive way of getting the word out whether it was effective or not. And here we are 10 years later discussing the same advertising problems.
Logic would tell us that in a city the size of Orlando ( must be 1 million or so ), if only .01% of them showed up at OSW, they'd have to cancel the races because they couldn't acomodate that large of a crowd. How hard can it be to attract .01% of the population? Disney does it, so does Universal.
The answer is easy, you gotta get to all of them. That can't and won't happen on social media. It can't be done solely by newspaper or radio or tv. Or posters in the window, or showing up at car shows and events. Too much time and a little money have been wasted on trying to lure racing fans to OSW. They don't seem to be interested, at least not in large enough numbers to matter.. It's time to cultivate new fans, not just young fans, but new fans to auto racing. And they don't know from Karnac. You're going to have to go get them and convince them they're missing something. And if they've never heard the sound of a V-8 racing engine, they don't know what they've been missing.

[Boneman]

Hey EZ, I resign!

I just hope that OSW is at a cross-roads, and not a dead-end. It aint over until the bulldozers move in.

Two of my sons are getting to the age where we could be running at the local track pretty soon. I hope I have the chance to jump back in to action at OSW on a regular basis.

[UREZ2PASS]

OSW has not had a race program worthy of fans for a long time. Keeping it open for so long only ran it into the ground further. Every effort to draw in new fans was meaningless because there was nothing to see. The ones that came, saw no reason to come back.

I will say, there was about 25 cars that were dedicated to the track but they were far to few in numbers to make a difference.

The OSW oval track weekly racing program is dead and gone.

OSW is now a special events track, you don't need a high school diploma to figure it out, anything else is dreaming unless a large amount of money is invested.

It will take big purses to attract cars and big advertising dollars to attract fans. Anything less is result in what we have witnessed the past decade.

[UREZ2PASS]

Hey EZ, I resign!

I just hope that OSW is at a cross-roads, and not a dead-end. It aint over until the bulldozers move in.

You are in an unresignable position, it's an earned position. LOL !

And you won't see bull dozers until I lease it and make it a dirt track.

[kletus]

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