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    I don't want to hear another owner or promoter say one word about low car counts, If you are not smart enough to keep up with cost and availability on the parts that you put in your rules you deserve to go down the drain. You allow aftermarket crank, aftermarket rod, aftermarket piston, aftermarket cam, aftemarket intake, ECT. However absolutely no flexibility on heads that have not been made in thirty years. If you do find a set you have to have seats installed, guides installed, new valves, locks, retainers, and cut and cc'ed repeatedly until they get it to 72cc at $50 a whack ea. head. All said and done $1500 or more on old junk heads. You can buy an imca approved race ready STOCK REPLACEMENT Darts for 500 ea., delivered in less than a week, no jacking around with the machine shop. Other than if you had a vested interest in a machine shop can anyone explain to me why you would want these cylinder head rules? It is definitely not to keep cost down, or for fairness of competition.

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    Not enough promoters look at what IMCA does. They are, by far, the most successful rule books in the country.

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    • #3
      It is true about the heads.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mpf74 View Post
        I don't want to hear another owner or promoter say one word about low car counts, If you are not smart enough to keep up with cost and availability on the parts that you put in your rules you deserve to go down the drain. You allow aftermarket crank, aftermarket rod, aftermarket piston, aftermarket cam, aftemarket intake, ECT. However absolutely no flexibility on heads that have not been made in thirty years. If you do find a set you have to have seats installed, guides installed, new valves, locks, retainers, and cut and cc'ed repeatedly until they get it to 72cc at $50 a whack ea. head. All said and done $1500 or more on old junk heads. You can buy an imca approved race ready STOCK REPLACEMENT Darts for 500 ea., delivered in less than a week, no jacking around with the machine shop. Other than if you had a vested interest in a machine shop can anyone explain to me why you would want these cylinder head rules? It is definitely not to keep cost down, or for fairness of competition.
        many are pricing the lower budget guys out of the game. That's the reason for no cars....its NOT the economy as they claim. Its the bullshit rules, expensive tires and shady tech that keeps the cars away.
        Nathan Florian

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        • #5
          Desoto allows World Product and Dart heads.

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          • #6
            YES, I Know

            Downside for me is 86 mi. Each way.
            Guess I need to commit to them and move on.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Frasson118 View Post
              Not enough promoters look at what IMCA does. They are, by far, the most successful rule books in the country.
              Jerry did there ever have a IMCA track in Florida????

              don62

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              • #8
                I don't know if there ever was, or ever will be, but where ever they are, they are very successfull. Not many track//sanction brings in 800+ cars and at their annual big meet, and nearly 400 of the headliner class. Evidently, we're talking the real, one and only IMCA Mods.
                André Fortin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Don Nerone View Post
                  Jerry did there ever have a IMCA track in Florida????

                  don62
                  From what I understand, the *original* "Florida Modifieds" at New Smyrna and Orlando from the mid-'80s *WERE* supposed to be based off of the IMCA rulebook - claim rule and all.

                  Then it got out of control, tracks didn't enforce the treaded-tire/big-motor/claim rule(s), and the class is small.

                  Go *back* to the original rulebook, and car counts *should* start coming up.

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                  • #10
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                    Actually there was an actual IMCA sanctioned track in Florida. IT was the old Lakeland Interstate Speedway, and guess who promoted it MR. Don Nerone.

                    The Florida Modifieds did start based off the IMCA rule book, exact word for word even down to the body rules. My series SARA followed them also for years.

                    As for the claimer rule it was up to the drivers to police it, it was 350 exchange and 500 out right, traditional long block. So not really sure how the tracks would not police the rule all the driver had to do was stop on the front shut after the race and present the CASH.

                    SARA also had the option in our rule book to claim an engine and it happened once at USA International Speedway.
                    Last edited by Rick Day; 08-03-2014, 09:17 PM. Reason: spelling

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