Mid-week shows don't work...?

[Frasson118]

Seekonk Speedway in Mass. is doing a Wed show with 45 Modifieds entered, $10,000 to win, $1000 to the B-Main winner, and tons of bonuses like longest tow.
THATS a SHOW.
I will never get why Fla doesn't even TRY.

[Jimmy McKinley]

Midvale's July 3rd Main Event Series show (a Thursday night) brought 34 outlaw Late Models, 27 open-wheel Modifieds, over 30 Compacts, and about 27 Street/Hobby Stocks.

Packed house. 100 laps. Started 24 Late Models in the feature.

[Don Nerone]

Seekonk Speedway in Mass. is doing a Wed show with 45 Modifieds entered, $10,000 to win, $1000 to the B-Main winner, and tons of bonuses like longest tow.
THATS a SHOW.
I will never get why Fla doesn't even TRY.

NSS has had many mid week shows im the last 15 years.
None of them have done very good.
Citrus did 3 of them and 1 was good.
Many tracks in florida have tried and lost on mid week shows.
In the great north the racing season is 10 to 12 weeks long so they fan is looking for more shows.
I florida there are plenty of tracks with at least 35 and some 42 weeks of racing. a mid week show is just another race on the wrong night.
OKJ your turn

don62

[Frasson118]

"Racing season is 10-12 weeks long"........
Once again, The Don is clueless.

Don..... other than the mid-week tie in with the 400 weekend, show me ANY shows that NSS has tried. The last real attempt at off-night shows, was back when the Powell Memorial was done on Tuesdays (?)
It works VERY well in many places.... it has nothing to do with the length of the season, but has EVERYTHING to do with not having any competition for either competitors or fans.
Still, nobody down here GETS that.

[andre]

They work here

They definitly work up this way. Last night at Autodrome Drummond, there was 40+ Northeastern Dirt Big Block Modifieds, 40+ Sportsman, 29 Mini Sprint, and 4000+ race fans.

And Monday night at Granby, basically same car counts, but more fans.

[Phil Jacques]

Waterford Speedbowl here in CT does Wednesday Shows on a weekly basis... The place is ALWAYS absolutely jammed full of people, $8 per person, and 20 cars + per division...


Side note... SidsView will be at Seekonk tonight We are making our return for this show after a short little hiatus. Look for a video Friday-ish, maybe even Thursday Night. They are only starting 26 cars for the 10k race tonight so there WILL be a B Main.

When is the last time you heard of an asphalt show with a B main?

[JC26]

Waterford Speedbowl here in CT does Wednesday Shows on a weekly basis... The place is ALWAYS absolutely jammed full of people, $8 per person, and 20 cars + per division...


Side note... SidsView will be at Seekonk tonight We are making our return for this show after a short little hiatus. Look for a video Friday-ish, maybe even Thursday Night. They are only starting 26 cars for the 10k race tonight so there WILL be a B Main.

When is the last time you heard of an asphalt show with a B main?

The Eddie Brann Memorial does them every year. The last two years if I remember correctly both had (2) B mains.

[Phil Jacques]

That's great to hear. Very rare that B mains are run on asphalt anymore though.

I have ideas how to split the 6 or 7 active tracks up over a couple days that might help car counts all around and allow some guys to run multiple times per week should they chose. But it's not likely any of the tracks would ever entertain the idea of changing days.

Just seems counterproductive to me for EVERYONE to run on 1 night... 6 or 7 tracks averaging 7-10 cars per division most night... Imagine if you ran 2 tracks Fri, 2 tracks Sat, 2 tracks Sun... Or something of that nature.

[OldSchool+]

Phil,

Seems like the folks in the grandstands are Saturday-night-trained.

Speedworld has run Fridays forever and even that is a struggle for them (although, to be fair, they also have had other "issues" as well).

But my question is-- Does the multi-night model assume that folks will go two nights a week, or that folks that cannot or will not make a Saturday night show will attend mid week?

Either way, it is a stretch for me to believe that would be viable in Florida.

I would suggest the mid-week shows are in areas that have more--and more passionate fans--than Fl.

[JC26]

The problem is costs have skyrocketed and most people scrape money together just to run one or two nights out of the month. Imagine them trying to do that twice on one weekend.

[Shiloh64]

[Matt Albee]

NSS has had many mid week shows im the last 15 years.
None of them have done very good.
Citrus did 3 of them and 1 was good.
Many tracks in florida have tried and lost on mid week shows.
In the great north the racing season is 10 to 12 weeks long so they fan is looking for more shows.
I florida there are plenty of tracks with at least 35 and some 42 weeks of racing. a mid week show is just another race on the wrong night.
OKJ your turn

don62

Since mid-week races seem to work well elsewhere, maybe the problem in Florida is the promoters not being very good at promoting.

[Phil Jacques]

Phil,

Seems like the folks in the grandstands are Saturday-night-trained.

Speedworld has run Fridays forever and even that is a struggle for them (although, to be fair, they also have had other "issues" as well).

But my question is-- Does the multi-night model assume that folks will go two nights a week, or that folks that cannot or will not make a Saturday night show will attend mid week?

Either way, it is a stretch for me to believe that would be viable in Florida.

I would suggest the mid-week shows are in areas that have more--and more passionate fans--than Fl.

To me, Speedworld is not a fair comparison. OldSchool I am under the impression you are just a fan and not involved in any of the behind the scenes activities that teams go through? Speedworld seems to have had a bad reputation for a long time now for whatever reason. I never really dove deep into finding out what it is but everything I have always heard hangs a black cloud over that place in general. So I don't think OSW can be used as a comparison.

My opinion... $12 adults, $8 kids ages 6-12, 5 and under FREE is a good ticket price model. I don't know avg. ticket prices down there but if it's higher than those prices maybe tracks should give it a shot and see what happens.

The Speedbowl dropped prices from $18 to $12 one night these year and doubled attendance. I am sure the fans are out there, but the economy is not allowing them to spend $80 for 1 night of racing. I spend $120 per weekend when I am not racing just in tickets to travel around to different tracks. The diehards will attend more races if there is the ability to attend more than one race per week.

I can't speak for drivers, but I bet a number of guys would love the opportunity to run more than once a week sometimes when they can afford it. I know it comes down to money once again, but if the ability is there, it may work in everyone's favor. I am not saying it would immediately fix everything, but another thing it would definitely help is rainouts. If one track gets rained out, you can still have the opportunity to race elsewhere the next day if there are multiple days of racing.

Just my thoughts. Usually they are a little out in left field lol

[Phil Jacques]

Since mid-week races seem to work well elsewhere, maybe the problem in Florida is the promoters not being very good at promoting.

I would agree with that in general... My general assessment while I was in FL last week was that there is no advertising really outside of Social Media and this Forum. Advertising like that only reaches the same people over and over, not new potential customers. I went to NSS Saturday night, spent most of the day in New Smyrna and never heard a thing about the race. Spent some time in other areas of the state near other tracks during the week as well and never saw or heard a peep about racing.

You guys live there so you could tell me better, do ANY of the tracks post flyers, do radio or tv ads etc? Or do they only advertise on Social Media and Karnac? Now I am curious...

[Phil Jacques]

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