Well sundays truck race at Martinsville had Ross Chastain,Joey Coulter,Ray Black jr.,John hunter Nemecheck and if I remember right one other driver from Florida in the starting lineup.If you would throw in Chris Fontaine you have the makings of a Florida wild bunch.
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Not sure that any of the above has won anything in Fla worth remembering. Maybe a Truck race or 2, but nothing of real meaning.
Meanwhile, guys like Choquette, Nasse, Kyle Bronson, Ivedent Lloyd, Travis Cope, Daniel Keene Jr (guys that are true wheelmen) don't have ANYONE knocking on their door to move them up where their talents should have taken them.
Bring a FAT check, and a double-stacker, and you too can be a Nascar Truck Series driver.
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Couldn't agree more with you Trash. This guy has pumped more adrenaline through my veins than any racer in a LONG time.
Not sure if his talents would transfer to asphalt.... but everyone wondered about Kyle Larson too. Larson brought home the 'W' first time out in a SLM.
Thanks to Kim Brown at NSS.... I got a call FROM the speedway to give ME the results.
Get Bronson the opportunities that Larson had, and it could happen.
Natural Talent doesn't come around every day. Bronson is a Diamond that hasn't been discovered yet.
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but heres the thing and somewhat of a point I was making
While the old Alabama Gang had loads of talent and wins during their days,these young florida guys are all very young (and the fifth guy I was forgetting was Ben Kennedy)and all trying to work their way up going directly through the truck series.A fact that the track promoters here in the state of F lorida should pay attention to.This young group also has talent,Ross Chastain was just a half step from being a winner last year and if Brad K. would have left him in the truck the whole year instead of yanking him out of it from time to time,I think would have made it happen.J.H.Nemecheck won a big late model show at Watermelon Capital Speedway in Georgia at the start of the year and in time will make his presence felt much like Ryan Blaney has in the truck series.Who knows about Ben kennedy yet but you know he has the connections to get in good equipment,and Coulter won a very competitive truck race at Auburndale in December.(I know not exactly the big time but still a wins a win)My point is there is a big contingent of Florida guys filling the truck ranks lately which is good for racing here in the state of Florida and something the P.A. guys here in Florida should talk about when they are just trying to hawk hot dogs and drinks before the race and at intermissions.sigpic
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I dont know of Lloyd
Originally posted by Frasson118 View PostNot sure that any of the above has won anything in Fla worth remembering. Maybe a Truck race or 2, but nothing of real meaning.
Meanwhile, guys like Choquette, Nasse, Kyle Bronson, Ivedent Lloyd, Travis Cope, Daniel Keene Jr (guys that are true wheelmen) don't have ANYONE knocking on their door to move them up where their talents should have taken them.
Bring a FAT check, and a double-stacker, and you too can be a Nascar Truck Series driver.sigpic
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I get it, I really do....
I see what you were trying to say now, Zero....and from a fans point of view those are some pretty valid points you make. And to a person who only watches racing on a TV screen, that would make sense, I guess. And probably for a percentage of the folks that attend races at their weekly short track could fall into that category, also, I'm sure. (And for the record, I know you aren't just a casual fan. I know you have a deeper interest and understanding of racing than the casual guy) Because even though whatever it is that "short track racing" has come to these days...promoters and announcers SHOULD be using the fact that there are people driving cars and trucks in national TV series that are, indeed, from Florida....or at least have been in races in Florida.
Promoting is as promoting does, I guess, and they should be doing a better job of it.
My contention was (other than to just be the smartass I usually am) that comparing a bunch of pocket racers to The Alabama Gang was kind of, well, not really "do-able".
Those guys were racing for a living. Not only working on their race cars themselves but paying for their entire operation out of their own pockets. Their daddies and grandpas weren't waiting in the pits with a checkbook and a car-hauler full of spare motors and chassis. They didn't just get to slide into a ride into one of the top rung, national series without having proven themselves by kicking butt at each stop along the way. That fact, even more so than the wins, was what made them the Alabama Gang. They could go most ANYWHERE and be competitive against the locals right off the trailer.
dd38's is right though. They should have been called "The Florida Gang" as the Allisons were from Miami, Farmer was from Tennessee, Davey was born in Florida....Bonnett was really the only one "from" Hueytown. That's just where they kind of set up shop.
Anyways....I DO understand that it's just not done that way anymore. It's sad, but it's the ugly truth. These days to succeed it's more important to be "marketable" than to be talented. If Little Jimmy crashes 10 times in 11 races he still got talked about on TV 10 times. And THAT'S what really matters. And as long as his benefactor's cash holds out to buy/build more cars and motors, he's still "a talented and hard charging star of tomorrow". Without it he's (or she's)just the guy (or girl) that tore up all those cars while trying to learn how to drive.
And I don't know how Frasson comes up with his ideas...he's drunk most of the time anyways.
Sorry so long-winded.....again.....lol
OJ
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Lil' bit of trivia:
That "Alabama gang" moniker was hung on them guys by a newspaper writer in about 1966 or so.
Bobby, Donnie, and Red had won a bunch of races down at Huntsville, Birmingham, and Montgomery. They were towing to a race in North Carolina. As they all pulled through the back gate together, the reporter remarked, "Here comes that damn Alabama gang again."
The name stuck after it was published in the race report in the local paper.
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hey OJ
Its a long way removed from the old days.There arent too many that try to come up through the ranks the old way.You know,sweat,drive,determination and hard knocks.Most of them now days get a firm grip on mommy and daddys checkbook first and when they go home and pout because they didnt win,mom and dad open the checkbook a little further.But then again in a lot of our day the cost of the car vs. the payout at the paywindow was a lot more in proportion.Times certainly have changed and one thing that has changed with it is the lack of good race promotion and the desire to do so.Nowadays they expect to just throw the gates open and a huge crowd and packed pits will just appear out of the blue.Fat chance.Okay enough Im getting tired and cranky,time for my warm milk,cookies and my nap.One last thing to mention though.Back in the 50s guys used to travel from central Ohio to Ontario Canada to race CROSLEYS.Now given the fact that the Crosley division was a fast fading fad that was never a top money division,how many of these guys today would haul ass out of work on a friday and travel on two lane highways for 300 miles just to race?sigpic
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Originally posted by zerofor View PostIts a long way removed from the old days.There arent too many that try to come up through the ranks the old way.You know,sweat,drive,determination and hard knocks.Most of them now days get a firm grip on mommy and daddys checkbook first and when they go home and pout because they didnt win,mom and dad open the checkbook a little further.But then again in a lot of our day the cost of the car vs. the payout at the paywindow was a lot more in proportion.Times certainly have changed and one thing that has changed with it is the lack of good race promotion and the desire to do so.Nowadays they expect to just throw the gates open and a huge crowd and packed pits will just appear out of the blue.Fat chance.Okay enough Im getting tired and cranky,time for my warm milk,cookies and my nap.One last thing to mention though.Back in the 50s guys used to travel from central Ohio to Ontario Canada to race CROSLEYS.Now given the fact that the Crosley division was a fast fading fad that was never a top money division,how many of these guys today would haul ass out of work on a friday and travel on two lane highways for 300 miles just to race?
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