Safety expectations

[rhinoracing11]

We had another young driver Sat. Night put themselfs in harms way doing what they perceived as, a love to race.She is 15, driving in her 1st race. On a dirt track, in a 4cyl Gladiator.Prayers goes out to the family.That being said....Should tracks let 14,15 yr olds drive? ALL drivers should have a HANS device and should be track regulated no hans no racing.Should so much pratice time be put in before you actully race.I beleive this happen last year as well another young driver injured him self.Tracks wake up!
Rob

[scott bertram]

I believe all of the tracks should take a long look at this kind of situation. I see no harm in at minimum making all who are under 18 to have a HANS, I get the whole trying to keep it affordable thing but safety has no price.

We at least need to be extra cautious with minors. I was not a fan of the bulky and expensive HANS, but I'm glad I have it now...... it may just be the difference between seeing my fiancé and son after the race or not.......



MANDATE HANS!!!!!

[dd38]

When I was growing up I went to the old Orlando Raceway on Landstreet. You were not even allowed in the pits unless you were 16 and had to be associated with a car/team. Could not drive a car unless you were 18 and had a valid drivers license. The age thing has got out of hand with the big cars. Bandeleros are o.k., but big cars ought to have a minimum age limit. But that's my own opinion and I'm sure I will get some S### (JW) about it. You can't even run the Fast Track at Lil 500 unless you are 16.

[Benny The Mule]

When I was growing up I went to the old Orlando Raceway on Landstreet. You were not even allowed in the pits unless you were 16 and had to be associated with a car/team. Could not drive a car unless you were 18 and had a valid drivers license. The age thing has got out of hand with the big cars. Bandeleros are o.k., but big cars ought to have a minimum age limit. But that's my own opinion and I'm sure I will get some S### (JW) about it. You can't even run the Fast Track at Lil 500 unless you are 16.

my Dad raced at Orlando raceway. and i agree on the age limit. though some young drivers are very talented, they should be older before entering full size cars.

[ScottPrentice]

12-14 year olds driving super late models is what I don't get (I know this is not what happened last night, I'm just saying).
Used to be the only guys racing a SLM were the guys that had worked their way up through the hobbys and sportman classes, and had gained some driving experience.

My prayers and condolences go out to the family of this young lady.

[JD99]

As the father of a young driver with talent (he's 20 now, but has been racing since he was 6), I had many opportunities to put him in Modifieds and Late Models. In fact, when he was 16, I bought him a modified, but did not allow him to race it until I was comfortable he could handle it. I have not reached that level YET, and he is now driving Dwarf cars, learning, and hopefully gaining respect from the others he races with. My point is that a lot of these young kids have parents with more money than the kid has talent, and rather than tell little Johnny or Joanie that they can't race a Late Model at 13, they let them go and put themselves and others in harms way. I also grew up in an era where you had to be 16 to enter the pits, and 18 to drive. Now, it's about money and who is the next Jeff Gordon (The true villain in all of this, In My Opinion) and the tracks want to get as much back gate money as possible. I think (again, just my opinion) a veterans committee should evaluate any new driver coming into their division, and a majority ruling, maybe 3 out of 5, would have to approve.

I don't have the answer, but I do know we have lost 2-3 drivers locally in the last few years, and I worry about my son every time he straps in. I just do what I can to keep him in a safe place. My condolences to the family of the girl who passed after last nights wreck. I hope I never have to accept them from someone else.

Scott Cordon

[MiniRacer26]

This is very saddening. A race car of any kind can be deadly and requires lots of maturity and respect. The parents of thesr kids and the tracks that race should mandate a neck restraint system of some kind. Last night at Showtime they had officials checking everyone for some kind of neck restraint, at minimum a neck roll. I thought that was great, I have never been to a track thay has done that. The cars are getting faster and our safety equipment needs to follow suit.

[egspeedway]

Before we get all wrapped up in discussing what should have been done, how old the driver was, how the car was built, what safety devices were in play, emergency equipment etc. lets all remember racing has and will be dangerous for ever. Lets take this opportunity to reach out to the family and support them in this in their hours of need.

[Matt Albee]

Very sad to hear about another one of these completely avoidable incidents.

Children should not be allowed to drive race cars, not even pure stocks or stock minis.

Safety devices for all of the lower classes should be exactly the same as for the fastest classes.

Rules and car specs for the beginner classes have to be changed to account for hitting something solid like a concrete wall or a light pole. If the cars are basically stock, and drive into a light pole at high speed, the outcome will be pretty much the same as it would be on the street. Just adding a driving suit and helmet isn't the answer here. Proper car construction and a rethink of the rules is the answer.

If you can't or don't want to do it correctly and safely then we're going to have more incidents like this.

[Jimmy McKinley]

Just saw this on FaceBook:

"Sad news from Bubba Raceway Park in Ocala, Florida. 15-year-old Niokoa Johnson was making her first career start last night when she hit the wall head-on, suffering severe head trauma. She was taken off of life support today. Godspeed Niokoa..."

[dd38]

Just saw on TV27 in Orlando that she passed away. How many does that make recently hurt or died.

[pintodave]

Very tragic indeed, prayers to the family.

I agree with Scott Bertram - I always brushed off the need for a head and neck restraint, now that I've been using one I consider myself lucky that I never hurt myself previously.

The age thing is debateable. 15 or 16 or 18 - I think they should all be wearing a HANS device, there are many affordable options now unlike 10-15 years ago (and the price from 15 years ago is still not a valad excuse for not using one). Those angular front impacts are the devistating ones, no matter a Cup car or a pure stock car.

Accidents are a scary part of motorsports. Anything can happen at any time and that is a choice we all make every time we strap in. I think the time has definitely come though for mandating HANS devices, it should be as commonplace as properly mounted, in-date 5-point belts IMHO.

[ancrdave]

Take a look at her car... I appears to be well built with a full cage... but, in hitting an immovable object at high speed, really nothing can be built good enough to keep you from being hurt... In this instance, a HANS may have saved her from being badly hurt or even being injured at all (apparently she did not have one)... you never know, but at this time, I believe every race track in Florida should voluntarily add to there rules: "HANS device recommended and required for all drivers 21 years of age and younger."

[ancrdave]

Take a look at her car... I appears to be well built with a full cage... but, in hitting an immovable object at high speed, really nothing can be built good enough to keep you from being hurt... In this instance, a HANS may have saved her from being badly hurt or even being injured at all (apparently she did not have one)... you never know, but at this time, I believe every race track in Florida should voluntarily add to there rules: "HANS device recommended and required for all drivers 21 years of age and younger."

[Matt Albee]

Take a look at her car... I appears to be well built with a full cage... but, in hitting an immovable object at high speed, really nothing can be built good enough to keep you from being hurt... In this instance, a HANS may have saved her from being badly hurt or even being injured at all (apparently she did not have one)... you never know, but at this time, I believe every race track in Florida should voluntarily add to there rules: "HANS device recommended and required for all drivers 21 years of age and younger."

The full cage, which should be mandatory in all classes, isn't the issue here. The cars in the lower classes need to add front bars and crush zones to keep frontal impacts reasonable just like the SLM rules dictate. That means side impact protection as well. Yes, we've had drivers hurt and even killed in SLMs, but a driver stands a vastly improved chance of survival in a properly designed and built SLM.
The HANS device or an acceptable substitute should also be mandatory, cost be damned. But so far there is no evidence that the lack of a HANS was the problem.