keeping race costs down

[Elkoldtimer]

I guess there is no sure way to do it, even sealed motors aren't safe- LoL

http://www.racingjunk.com/Late-Model...SuperSize=true

first line of the ad; "WE DO NOT IN ANYWAY CONDONE CHEATING BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN AND IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO DO REPAIRS."

I thought you were supposed to either send them back or to an authorized dealer for any repairs or freshening

[scottgarrity07]

That's why the crates need to be torn down just like the open motors. And I own a crate!

[egspeedway]

I used to think you could do a numbers matching of parts in a crate motor but after seeing the cost of tungsten vs. lead you cannot outspend a mans ego if he has the financial funds. While it is a shame and has been with the sport all along at least dirt tracks with multiple grooves offers some place for driver skill as a factor. On a one grove track it about money or being an asshole neither of which I like.

[modracer#8]

And this why when they catch somebody cheating they should take all there points away. and if they do it again ban them from that class for a year.

[Frasson118]

In some series, if you're caught with a cheated up Crate motor, they TAKE your motor, and KICK YOU OUT for a year.

Ask Mark Whitener what happens if you're busted.....

[RSB]

I'd like to see someone try to "take my motor". If I had one, that is...

[Benny The Mule]

LOL! Crate engines. I know a dirt LM in NC right now that makes 530hp to the rear wheels with a (cough) tuned 604 crate engine.

[andre]

Good, well written rules and their enforcing are the key. One without the other do not work.

AND, contrary to popular beliefs, cheaper racing does not mean phone book thick rules book.

[tccaz]

No matter what class you race somebody will out spend you to win. To me the easiest way to keep costs down is to race the class you can afford but I have never seen anyone do it. If you race within YOUR budget that will make you competitive and still be able to enjoy it.

[andre]

I agree 100% with that.

Race to have fun. LIKE IT USE TO BE....A HOBBY TO SPEND THE SATURDAY NIGHT. AN OCCASION TO GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE, MAKE NEW FRIENDS, learn some, teach some, AND WIN ONCE IN A WHILE.

If everybody woud do that, there would be a lot less bitching about everything.

[Benny The Mule]

I raced within my budget. That is one reason i no longer have a car. Hopefully i can fit one back into my budget. But it is becoming more expensive every year.

[scottgarrity07]

Well said, Andre, well said. Your words are what racing is all about for me. I understand finding "gray areas" and being "innovative" are things that have been a part of this sport since it beginnings. However, blatant cheating is downright dishonorable in my book and just shows a lack of character as far as I'm concerned. Besides I could never feel like I have accomplished anything to be proud of if it took "blatant cheating" to win. I always try and race within my budget, but have always been outspent by most of my competitors throughout my entire racing "career". I have always enjoyed this David vs. Goliath aspect of the sport because on those nights when I do manage to win I can look over at the Daddy Warbucks of the racing world and enjoy the fact that I beat them spending waaaay less (meaning doing my homework on handling and driving well). But unless rules are being enforced to help keep a somewhat level playing field those nights are not as likely to be possible for anyone "racing within their means".

[modracer#8]

I agree with you Scott I don't know how anybody could enjoy wining knowing they cheated to get it . lack of character for sure .

[egspeedway]

Ego,ego,ego. I know of a track champion who has never won a heat race much less a feature. Some people just crave trophies. Some cheating is so universal(tire treatment) that they might as well legalize it. The one that bothers me most is traction control. If this becomes commonplace all forms of racing will become follow the leader. Just watch NASCAR on a 1 1/2 mile track and ask yourself if that is what you want.