Who is in charge of Fascar?

[pintodave]

Edm,

you are exactly correct, that is the problem with short track racing.

But I think all Rick meant was that on a normal night his local track pulled more than a "series" race which is supposed to hold more prestige.

So this is what I dont get - just to throw fuel on the fire (not that it will actually do anything) - judging by what I've seen, track owners and promoters read this board, but there is never any responce to any issues that are brought forth (sometimes even at THEIR request)???

[Todd McCreary]

isnt that just another case of tracks NOT working together.

regular Sportsmen cars are a weekly show at Auburndale just as they are at OSW, NSS and Columbia.

given that there are 11 dates on the SSS schedule and only 41 weekends that Auburndale ( quite a lot, actually ) is even running i'm not sure why Auburndale is expected to shut the weekly racers that support them down for +25% of their season when the SSS don't run there. it's even harder to expect it when Sportsman and Mods are their top tier classes.

whether Auburndale isn't interested in the tours or FASCAR didn't want to run there i have no idea but it doesn't appear that there's any FASCAR stuff on the schedule at all.

i think there was a Crash-a-Rama there earlier this year though.

[ovalracer44]

Does Auburndale still have the rumble strips in the middle of the groove?

[Rick Williamson]

Correct me if I am wrong but 16 sportsmen at one track and 14 at another, isnt that just another case of tracks NOT working together. I can see how that is hurting short tracks around the country.

Sorry to miss lead you. The Sportsmen race EVERYOTHER weekend (OWM's race the weekends the Sportmens are not racing)at Auburndale. It wasn't a one time race that could have the date changed. In fact a few year ago when a fair number of Auburndale's sportsmen drivers WERE in the Sportsmen Series. Auburndale DIDN'T race the Sportmens class the night the Series was racing. And the reason the Series doesn't race there is the money that the Series charges the trackowner to put on their show. Why pay someone $6000.00 or so. When the track can draw more cars then the Series? At no added cost to the track.

[Sandy Nerone]

I see where Sandy didn't address the question in her post about why she was allowed to race. Looks like Fascars comment on the subject is (NO COMMENT).Just another reason why the Mini series only have 9 cars at the most racing now. And Auburndale had more Sportsmen the same night the SSS raced at NSS 2 weeks ago. 16 vs 14.

Rick, I did not quote on the subject because I had nothing to do with it. I was not there and knew nothing about it until I read it on this board and was told that the powers to be at NSS suspended her from the truck races at NSS. So NO I don't have a comment and won't make one since I was not there and don't make decisions for NSS.

[eagletai]

Rick, I did not quote on the subject because I had nothing to do with it. I was not there and knew nothing about it until I read it on this board and was told that the powers to be at NSS suspended her from the truck races at NSS. So NO I don't have a comment and won't make one since I was not there and don't make decisions for NSS.

Rules are for normal people rich folks get the pass each and every week HANDS DOWN!!!
MONEY makes that world go round even in racing. It is a shame what the promoters of NSS and OSW will say out one side of their mouths and then the very next week do a about face on the very subject..
Once you've lost validity with your racers you've lost it forever......

They will wreck racing in Florida hands down....

Ignorance is bliss for the chosen few....

[former champ]

waaaaa

some of your points were good . i agree that having don and sandy gone from fascar would be a good thing [ i have never been a big nerone fan]
since don has ruined what is it now 3/4 tracks and how many tours?
maybe sandy can answer that! osw does need an overhaul..the fire has left alot of peoples hearts..CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG...lol and the concession guy has a rather large investment at osw of course he is going to promote

[Todd McCreary]

Does Auburndale still have the rumble strips in the middle of the groove?

Ron says if you're on rumble strips you're WAY off the groove. the general track surface seems to be fairly smooth. i don't know, i haven't run there yet.




and don't make decisions for NSS.

the question isn't whether or not you make decisions for NSS Sandy, and you know that very well.

the question is whether or not FASCAR tours are going to honor suspensions made in one touring class ( the Pro-Trucks ) in their other touring classes ( the Goodyear Challenge just as a fer instance ). as per your own rule book.

here's the relevant section from the Truck series rules:
"SUSPENSIONS OR PENALTIES INCLUDE BOTHE DRIVER AND THE CAR. IF YOU ARE SUSPENDED FROM ONE (1) RACE TRACK OR FASCAR TOUR FOR ANY INFRACTION, THE SAME SUSPENSION OR PENALTY WILL APPLY TO THE OTHER TWO (2) TRACKS AND TOURS."

and the Goodyear Challenge rulebook reads the same. with the same typo mind you.


yeah, Jessica is also supposed to be suspended from NSS and OSW for whatever the length of her penalty is but you guys in FASCAR Tours are the ones making the penalty and variance calls.

i know damn sure Rusty and Terry don't have the ability to over rule you where a Tour race is concerned. and once the Murphy's have been told to come on ahead by any FASCAR official it would be damn sh###y if one the promoters unilateraly took it upon themselves to enforce the rule book and turned the hauler away at the gate.

( scratches head, "darn, that sounds familiar but i just can't place it" )

did you personally make this variance ruling? probably not. but somebody up there at FASCAR Tours knows exactly whats going on.

[pintodave]

Todd,

So what you are getting at is everyone is real fast to make decisions and be in charge, but when the racers want answers, all of the same "officials" throw their hands up in the air and say "not my decision! talk to so-and-so!" and pass the buck down the line like a hot potato...

[Round D' Round Racer]

Is it fair to say

This is a dead horse!

I am new on this board, but have been following certain subjects.

Not knowing all the people involved on this issue I can see where it may just be a dead end street. It appears the young lady got to race and you can't change the past. If it was a screw up or done on purpose - IT WAS DONE.

Perhaps it was one of the "Favorite Deals", who knows? But my money is on the fact no one will ever know.

Just my 2 cents from So. Ga

[georgep]

Well since you are in Florida and Orlando is in the picture It must be:
Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck because this Post sure reads like Goofy is the main speaker.

Do you need a touring series, NO not for the same cars the local tracks are trying to work with.

OLD DAYS worked people: Touring where the sprints and midgets. Tracks worked together to have a special race a couple of times a year.
There where MORE tracks because the drivers and owners Supported the local tack so they could race.

The killers of the racing IMHO where Ted Johnson, Glenn Donnelly because THEY made money by TOURING and Writing rules (DIRT) now the whole local scene is going down hill because the BUTTS in the seats want , well they do not know but whatever the local track puts on is not it in their eyes.

[Edm]

Round d round,

sorry bud, subject isnt dead just yet. Too many people would like SOME kind on answer why there are double standards.

[ovalracer44]

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Ron says if you're on rumble strips you're WAY off the groove. the general track surface seems to be fairly smooth. i don't know, i haven't run there yet.




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I just remember hitting them in a legends car. There was just enough room around the bottom to get a legends car in between the bottom of the track and the rumble strip. If you tried to go 2 wide it was over for the car on the outside. It was like hitting the rhythm section of a motorcross track.

[Round D' Round Racer]

Sorry Edn

Didn't mean to put a spur in your saddle.

I just asked if it was fair to ask if it was a dead horse. I guess I will just see if you get your answer or not (sure hope you do), but again (Just MHO) it ain't gonna happen.

I've been round a while, and I hate it when something like that happens and no one has the answer.

Oh, not your Bud/Bub or whatever - either.

Have a great day! Let everyone know when you get your answer(s)

[Edm]

Round d round,
No spur bud, just posting my opinion.