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  • #16
    The Race

    First of all the spotters were supposed to be all in a spotter designated area. We use raceceivers at Citrus and they dont usually work when people start trying to steal spots under caution. Once the first few cautions went the way they did I think the drivers started getting frustrated with a few guys that would jump ahead of others and then the track workers gave them the spot. I know it pissed me off when people were given the spots they stole. Once they started jockying for position there was no getting to your spot without muscling your way in and i for one am not about to tear up my car under caution. We all had transponders strapped to our cars and not sure if they could have been used to line up but it wasnt pretty. They were also giving the spots back to people involved or who caused the cautions wich is also B.S. The lineups after caution were a direct reflection of the way they were managing the race and the drivers were frustrated and not cooperating. Some cars were not going to the outside and at times some could not even get to there starting spot. As for removing bars in the car well maybe with a street stock...........but not an open wheel car. The bottom line is that the race turned ugly quickly. As for the continued ranting on the microphone.....well
    Doug Miller # 53

    2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
    2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
    2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
    2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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    • #17
      lUKE 81 and OWM53 You both pretty much hit the nail on the head, i would pass a couple of cars and the yellow would come out and here come the cars that you passed right back by ya, and they would pretty much go where they wanted to. Highlite of the night I made a hundred 100 laps, so take that gerital you said i needed during driver intro yoho and stick it up youre ,you no what

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      • #18
        Showtime

        I agree, I think there was potential for really good racing; and there actually was good racing there towards the end, it just took a while to get all of the idiots sorted out of the race...It seemed that there were somewhat of favorites being played, but that's just my personal opinion.

        It was like under caution you would have to still be aggressive and protect your spot, because someone would just come up and drive across your nose...It also doesn't help when they stop us multiple times on the track and the officials just stand there with their hands in the air, clueless...

        Hopefully these problems can get straightened out, maybe some big plans for another OWM race coming up later on this year...

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        • #19
          Can someone 'splain to me how the whole spin rule works on pavement? On dirt if we get tapped and spun you go to the back, no question. I'd say around half of the spins between the mods and street stocks the car that looped it got his spot back, and the car behind him was sent to the rear. Honestly there was no possible way to lay blame on many of those spins. They were just really tight racing deals. Everyone was going for the bottom and nobody from the stands or tower could possibly tell if the car behind hit the car ahead or the car ahead checked up and moved down. But at every yellow someone (spinner or spinee) was sent to the rear, except that last one? What happened there?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by luke81 View Post
            Can someone 'splain to me how the whole spin rule works on pavement? On dirt if we get tapped and spun you go to the back, no question. I'd say around half of the spins between the mods and street stocks the car that looped it got his spot back, and the car behind him was sent to the rear. Honestly there was no possible way to lay blame on many of those spins. They were just really tight racing deals. Everyone was going for the bottom and nobody from the stands or tower could possibly tell if the car behind hit the car ahead or the car ahead checked up and moved down. But at every yellow someone (spinner or spinee) was sent to the rear, except that last one? What happened there?
            Well I was in the 21 OWM, and from what I heard was that the leader (#1) looped it all my himself, therefore he should've been sent to the back...After the race when I asked Danny Glover, which was the official who was in the spotter tower, he said that the 21 (not knowing that I am the 21) hit him and spun him.

            This tells me that he had no clue what he was talking about because I restarted 2nd row outside, and wasn't anywhere near the spin.

            I just think that some things need to be organized a bit better, and not so much of favorites being showed...just my opinion..

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            • #21
              I think we all can admit that Yoho plays favorites with some drivers. Yoho did t want my car in the race to start with then as soon as he found a reason he black flagged my driver and kicked him out of the race. It's pretty sad when his own track officials say what he did is BS but since he pays them they don't say anything to him. Yoho's motto is "It's my track and if you don't like it don't come back."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by racin24dev View Post
                Well I was in the 21 OWM, and from what I heard was that the leader (#1) looped it all my himself, therefore he should've been sent to the back...After the race when I asked Danny Glover, which was the official who was in the spotter tower, he said that the 21 (not knowing that I am the 21) hit him and spun him.
                This tells me that he had no clue what he was talking about because I restarted 2nd row outside, and wasn't anywhere near the spin.
                I just think that some things need to be organized a bit better, and not so much of favorites being showed...just my opinion..
                I had a great view of what happened from where I was. What I saw was the 1 letting his car drift up a bit through the middle of the turn in front of the 03 (I think it was 03?) who was driving in very hard on the outside and he got lightly tapped at the very outer right edge of his rear bumper and got squirrely. At one point I really think he had it gathered up but was going to fall to at least 4th or 5th place so he looped it around knowing he'd be put back up front. If the track were to be consistent with the entire rest of the night either the 1 or the 03 should have been put in the rear.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by luke81 View Post
                  I had a great view of what happened from where I was. What I saw was the 1 letting his car drift up a bit through the middle of the turn in front of the 03 (I think it was 03?) who was driving in very hard on the outside and he got lightly tapped at the very outer right edge of his rear bumper and got squirrely. At one point I really think he had it gathered up but was going to fall to at least 4th or 5th place so he looped it around knowing he'd be put back up front. If the track were to be consistent with the entire rest of the night either the 1 or the 03 should have been put in the rear.
                  Yeah, that was another thing that could've happened; but regardless, someone should have went to the back.

                  I also "HEARD" that the corner worker at the exit gate of the track went over the radio and said that the 1 lost it by himself, but he said he was over ruled...but you know how that "he said, she said" goes...
                  Last edited by racin24dev; 01-09-2013, 12:57 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Sounds like another track owner. Does he have Broad Shoulders too, cause the one I know of made the comment that "I have broad shoulders and it is my track and if you don't like it, there is the gate".

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                    • #25
                      It would sure be a shame if that track closes again after the miraculous reprieve it got. Sometimes , owners should stay very much in the background and hire talented people to deal with the participants and spectators. It's always money well spent.
                      By the way, has anyone found a finish run down from the modified race Saturday night? I still haven't seen one.
                      Last edited by Matt Albee; 01-09-2013, 01:52 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Matt,

                        I surely agree with letting someone run the track. But i will tell you that like him or hate him Mr. Yoho does think out of the box. He also pays..........$3500 for the race was a good payout. 33 mods showed up and the race could have been much better but it is what it is. luckily his microphone broke when he got to me ........I can give you a start of a finishing order

                        1. 1
                        2. 289
                        3. 8
                        4. 53
                        5. 03
                        Doug Miller # 53

                        2009 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCMP
                        2011 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                        2012 Open Wheel Modified Champion CCS
                        2013 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime
                        2018 Open Wheel Modified Champion Showtime

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                        • #27
                          My way or the highway does not work at any track and Nascrap is the only series I have seen get away with it over the years. Franky Lloyd tried it at Golden Isles and turned a goldmine into a fools gold mine. Owner favoritism will always lose in the end if it is repeated(yes you can make a bad call) but don't repeat it. If you have favorites show it to them at the pit window or the gas tank not on the track. There are too many witnesses.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by openwm53 View Post
                            I surely agree with letting someone run the track. But i will tell you that like him or hate him Mr. Yoho does think out of the box. He also pays..........$3500 for the race was a good payout. 33 mods showed up and the race could have been much better but it is what it is. luckily his microphone broke when he got to me ........I can give you a start of a finishing order

                            1. 1
                            2. 289
                            3. 8
                            4. 53
                            5. 03
                            Thank you. Your list is 5 cars longer than the run down the track put out.
                            I know they have a facebook account, and they have a web site. They should use both of those sites along with message boards, regional and national stock car racing web sites and local newspapers to spread the word and give every bit of information they can think of. Not just a national site that lists finishing orders. That goes for all tracks. Forget the Speed Net nonsense and get the information out to as many people as possible in as many ways as possible.

                            By the way openwm53, finishing 4th was quite an accomplishment from what i've read about that race. Congratulations.
                            Last edited by Matt Albee; 01-09-2013, 05:55 PM.

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                            • #29
                              We all know the 1 car is not legal. How can you go 100 laps and not be spinning the tires at the end of the race? When every other car is coming out of the corners sideways and you come out with no wheel spin at all you must have an illegal traction control or something. Jefferson is Yoho's favorite and he shows it. Jefferson won the race and was through tech inspection before others got out of their cars? Come on now! If his track wasn't just a few miles from my house I wouldn't race their.

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                              • #30
                                BellawM, you got proof?

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