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  • #16
    The most fun I've ever had racing is winning. I build, engineer and maintain my own car's to help keep cost's down. Race within your mean's, but race something if you love the sport.

    Patrick Thomas 25

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    • #17
      yeah i do all my own stuff , That way you dont have to spend alot of money to payto have a engine put together . I only change $300 to put a whole motor together if you buy everything or give me the money too

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      • #18
        Winning is not everthin

        I have been involved in racing since the early 70's. Attached is a picture of us racing at Wayne County Speedway in Ohio and our first Legend car that we raced at Barberton Speedway, Midvale Speedway and Columbus Speedway. In both cases, we were racing to have fun. Yes, winning is nice, but it was not the end of the earth if we didn't win. We had more fun being together. We started racing the Legend Car in 1993 and had just one car, a couple sets of tires and no extra motor and everything was hauled around in a 26 foot trailer. At the time, the governing body of Legend Cars was INEX. this was short for INEXPENSIVE. that concept didn't last for too many years. It quickly became very apparent to us when we went to Charlotte one year for the Nationals and we were parked next to the Pistone race team with a semi-truck and trailer that had three cars, several spare motors and all kinds of parts that we were no longer an INEXPENSIVE form of racing and that WINNING was everything (even to the point of getting caught cheating). Winning to many is everything and if they do not have a first place trophy to sit on the car, they did not accomplish anything.
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        • #19
          When asked who is the most sucessful racer i have worked with joe Middleton always comes to mind he and Marlin raced for the fun of it and won many champsion ships with the help of the Howard brothers

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          • #20
            Just go out this weekend and have FUN. If you can't afford to race, find a class you can race unless you are already at the bottom of the classes and then save your money until you can. But you ain't going to get rich doing this so in that case, YOU NEED TO HAVE FUN.

            Hope everyone has a good weekend and Happy Mother's Day to all the wonderful moms out there this Sunday.

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            • #21
              HOLY COW BATMAN

              - Tom Jarrett now that's some fun there I will have to say he was fast & won very often. I did not think anyone here would know him.

              GREW UP WATCHING HIM SLIDE AROUND OHIO'S SHORT TRACKS!!!!

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              • #22
                oh man, now we are talking racing. Tom Jarrett from Austintown, Ohio. He raced at Canfield, Sharon, Butler, Expo, Lernerville, Raceway 7, Wayne County and North Hills. He started in 1962 and quit in 1986. Watched him every Sat. nite at Canfield, Sun. afternoon at Sharon. In 1969 he drove a Fairlane that when it came out of turn 4 and on the front straightaway screamed like a cat. What is so amazing is he never won a championship at Canfield. He was great. This is when racers race 2, 3 maybe 4 nights a week. Last I know, he had a used car lot in the Youngstown area. This is why racing was so great to watch or be a part of back then, drivers like him.

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                • #23
                  I spent three years working on TJ's car in the pits and at Marvin Friends gas station in Girard. We would travel Friday, Saturday and Sunday just to race at Lernerville, Wayne County, Canfield, Expo, Raceway 7, Eriez, Stateline and anywhere else we could race. Even raced in the Kings Royal at Eldora Speedway in 1974. Last time I was back in Youngstown visiting family, I think he still had his car lot.

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                  • #24
                    I only made it to Eriez one time... I'm thinking 1973. Do either of your know the names Jay Plyler, Bobby Schnars, Ron Blackmer, or Emory Mahan?

                    I can think of more, but let's start here.

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                    • #25
                      I lived about 15 minutes from the Mahoning County fairgrounds were the Canfield Speedway was and Sharon Speedway was about 45 minutes away. Spent my time there, never made it to Erie.
                      O. camper, do you have the Ron Pollock book that he put together called "Canfield Speedway" a photo journey 1946-1973. Some good picture of Tom Jarrett, and alot of other racers that race there and Sharon Speedway.

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                      • #26
                        Here are some shots of Tom Jarrett out of the 1974 Eriez Speedway year book. Racing Lyle Brown #2 and Jay Plyler #79
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                        "I watch figure skating for the crashes"

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                        • #27
                          Great Pictures from way back when. How about the names of
                          Jimmy Bickerstaff
                          Junior Hanley
                          Glenn Gault
                          Tom Wiemer

                          Could name a lot of them

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                          • #28
                            Jim Bickerstaff from Mineral Ridge
                            Tom Wimer of Girard, he and my dad worked on some job sites together.
                            Glenn Gault, the Orange Blossom Special. He ran a few Hooter races.
                            Bill Forney #199 a legend
                            Dave Benner
                            Mason Hiester #71
                            Jim Becker #3 stocks and lates
                            Bill Larson #88 stocks and lates
                            Bob Krauss
                            Tom Lanterman
                            these tracks ran only 2 classes back in the day and they had more cars then tracks today that have six classes. With 2 classes they had more races per night also. You went home after the races already thinking about next week.

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                            • #29
                              [QUOTE=Frasson118;104782]I only made it to Eriez one time... I'm thinking 1973. Do either of your know the names Jay Plyler, Bobby Schnars, Ron Blackmer, or Emory Mahan?

                              I can think of more, but let's start here.[/QUO
                              Grew up halfway between Eriez and Stateline.....Remember all these names.

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                              • #30
                                Sharon Speedway and ARCA driver

                                Pulled these pictures up of an old Ohio racer. Jim ran at every track that he could pull his car to. Can remember driving up Rt. 46 in Mineral Ridge and seeing Bickerstaff Tire.
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