#48 Appeal

[Southern Outlaw]

Southern.......l.......stealing IS NOT cheating.......

So what you are saying is if you get caught cheating (Trying for an unfair advantage) over your fellow competitor it's ok...So I sell you a horse on credit and you pay me 1/2 the cheat your way out of paying the other 1/2 is that not stealing....you build an engine ... win 5 races and take the money on your 6 race you get caught with the same engine that you won with the previous 5 races have you not been stealing from your fellow racers....as far as innovation goes read my post again...NASCAR gives you that opportunity. You have to go to the R$D center to get it approved BEFORE you go to the track....hey just saying if the shoe fits...ole 9 time should be banned for life....he is better then that or I use to think so...guess not

[Winger]

Fred makes a very good point. Innovation is not allowed in Nascar today. There was a time when innovation in racing led to products that made it's way into passenger cars. I can't think of the last time that happened. Heck, Nascar is just now allowing fuel injection many, many years after it became the standard in passenger vehicles.
I won't comment on the penalty for the 48 team because I don't believe all the information is out there. If this had been used previously, as it appears, it would seem it had at least implicit approval. It doesn't appear there was an attempt to hide it.

[Southern Outlaw]

Fred makes a very good point. Innovation is not allowed in Nascar today.

No it's not called INNOVATION...it's call R&D...been the way since the early 90's...Remember Dave Marcis was the R&D driver for Childress Racing for IRONHEAD!!

[Winger]

Like I said: Innovation is not allowed in Nascar today.

[pitcrew]

I just love that amongst all those debating this issue, I'll bet we could all agree that Smokey Yunick was great for the sport of racing, created many innovations now standard in racecars and street cars, and by definitions above was one of the biggest "cheaters" Nascar every saw. I mean really, a 5/8 scale Chevelle or whatever it was!!

And I for one think he might be the greatest character ever to grace the Nascar stage ( and I bet today's Nascar leaders would agree). If you get caught, pay the price. If you thought you found a gray area in the rule, it's your obligation as a crew chief to try it out.

[77NovaRacer]

Johnson won his appeal today and was reinstated his 25 points, moving him to 11th place.

[BigBlock98]

I'm a little confused here....If they overturned the points and suspension, then they must have found that there was no wrong doing by the 48 team. If that is the case, why would the fine still stand?

[fred23]

One Word For ya..........NASCAR!!!!! You could also insert NCAA........they bpth operate in the same fashion........what ever they want to do!

[Winger]

I'm a little confused here....If they overturned the points and suspension, then they must have found that there was no wrong doing by the 48 team. If that is the case, why would the fine still stand?

I haven't seen an explanation and probably won't. If I had to guess, I'd say the hearing officer felt the punishment didn't fit the crime. Or perhaps he felt there was wrong doing on Nascars part as well. That's possible if Hendrick was able to show this car and part had passed tech several times previously. One can only speculate.