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  • #16
    Originally posted by dibbs7j View Post
    nope not mad, had to go help unload trailer from last night....... it's all in good fun. we can sit here and bash drivers all day and compare, they must have some kind of talent. besides i was born in 78 if i could go back to the 60's and 70' and watch some racing i would in a heart beat.
    Yeah I agree dibbs. I think we all remember things better than they probably were. Thanks for being a good sport dibbs, have a nice evening.

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    • #17
      Doesnt Dale Jr have 2 nationwide championships in a row.Just thought i'd let you know that..lol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Casteel Racing View Post
        Doesnt Dale Jr have 2 nationwide championships in a row.Just thought i'd let you know that..lol
        I very well understand that and you're probably right I'm not sure but my buddy Rick keeps Telling me " But Busch has no championships" so I pointed out Earnhardt has no cup championships either. Just so you know where I was coming from. Or Mark Martin, or several other great racers. And I have to admit, he beat Busch today!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tunaman View Post
          Yeah I agree dibbs. I think we all remember things better than they probably were. Thanks for being a good sport dibbs, have a nice evening.
          yes sir tuna you have a good evening also.

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          • #20
            Cup has more competition than trucks an nationwide plus Jr won those championships running full time as Busch does not so i'll cut him a little slack on that one...lol

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tunaman View Post
              How many cup championships has Earnhardt won? How many races period?
              If you're talkin' 'bout Senior, he won (if I recall correctly) 76 Sprint Cup races and 7 Sprint Cup championships. He won 21 Busch (Nationwide) races; 1 NASCAR Winston West (now K&N Pro West); 1 NASCAR North (now K&N East); and 11 IROC wins (and four IROC championships).

              Now, to compare Dale JUNIOR to Kyle Busch and Mark Martin:

              Dale Junior has 18 Sprint Cup wins, 23 Nationwide wins, and was the 1998 and 1999 Busch (Nationwide) champion.

              Kyle Busch has 22 Sprint Cup wins, 49 Nationwide wins, and 29 Truck series wins, 1 win in K&N East, and 1 ARCA win.

              Mark Martin: 40 Sprint Cup wins, 49 Nationwide wins, 7 Truck wins, and 13 IROC wins (and five IROC championships).

              As far as the Sprint Cup "wins" rankings go, Kyle Busch is "only" 28th, behind guys like big brother Kurt (with 23 wins); Tony Stewart (39 wins); Martin with 40; Bill Elliott with 44; Johnson with 54 (I can't believe *that* one...wow); and Gordon, tied with Bobby Allison with 84 Sprint Cup wins.

              (info found on racing-reference.info; not responsible for errors)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Jimmy McKinley View Post
                If you're talkin' 'bout Senior, he won (if I recall correctly) 76 Sprint Cup races and 7 Sprint Cup championships. He won 21 Busch (Nationwide) races; 1 NASCAR Winston West (now K&N Pro West); 1 NASCAR North (now K&N East); and 11 IROC wins (and four IROC championships).

                Now, to compare Dale JUNIOR to Kyle Busch and Mark Martin:

                Dale Junior has 18 Sprint Cup wins, 23 Nationwide wins, and was the 1998 and 1999 Busch (Nationwide) champion.

                Kyle Busch has 22 Sprint Cup wins, 49 Nationwide wins, and 29 Truck series wins, 1 win in K&N East, and 1 ARCA win.

                Mark Martin: 40 Sprint Cup wins, 49 Nationwide wins, 7 Truck wins, and 13 IROC wins (and five IROC championships)
                As far as the Sprint Cup "wins" rankings go, Kyle Busch is "only" 28th, behind guys like big brother Kurt (with 23 wins); Tony Stewart (39 wins); Martin
                40; Bill Elliott with 44; Johnson with 54 (I can't believe *that* one...wow); and Gordon, tied with Bobby Allison with 84 Sprint Cup wins.
                (info found on racing-reference.info; not responsible for errors)
                Jimmy, obviously i was not talking about sr. My buddy Rick was quick to point out "and no championships" like he always does. Mark Martin? He had raced about 100 yrs before Kyle was born. JR, who is the reason everyone hates Kyle has how many yrs on Busch. In fact everyone on you list has about about a lifetime on Kyle. Also, how come all the other cup guys running Nationwide, Edwards, Tough guy (Harvick) etc arent (picking) on the guys in the lower tiers. Never heard anyone cry about SR "picking" on anyone down there. Just courious, I know you have a wealth of info at your disposl, what is Buschs ratio
                of starts to wins compared to some of these guys. I KNOW its about 3 times as good as Martin, a gozillion times jr. Admit it Jimmy, love or hate him hes one heck of a driver. Hes grown p a lot and when he grows up more he ill be awesome. Someone lse needs to grow up and stop blaming his crew and everyone else is JR.

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                • #23
                  Oh jimmy, am i wrong or did Kyle pass Martin in Nationwide wins? Hes what, half his age? Even Martin say hes a big fan of Kyle, some of the best natural talent hes ever seem.

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                  • #24
                    Hey Don, I've said *this* before: Kyle Busch has a TON of talent; just a lack of respect and attitude. *In my opinion*, Kyle Busch's attitude is "I'll move ya if I have to...!" It's also, in my opinion, that he feels that everyone should cater to him because he's "so great". You don't *get* respect in any form of racing; it's earned over time. He's one HELLUVA race car driver.

                    I'll also say this *again*: I DO NOT like Dale Earnhardt, Jr. I don't *hate* Kyle Busch because he "replaced" Junior and is kickin' his a$$ week in and week out; I hate Kyle Busch because of his lack of respect for everyone else on the race track and his smarmy-a$$ attitude.

                    Kyle flat-out will drive *through* someone. Earnhardt (the senior) would hit ya in the a$$ end to let ya know he's there, maybe twice or three times...and at that point, if he was faster'n you, you better watch out. He *intimidated* a LOT guys...rattled a LOT of cages

                    "He didn't bump ya, he didn't hit ya....he *rubbed* ya. And rubbin', son, is *racin'*!"

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                    • #25
                      I dont see Kyle driving like that. He is aggresive but just flat out running over people especially on a regular basis I just don't see it.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MW68SS View Post
                        I dont see Kyle driving like that. He is aggresive but just flat out running over people especially on a regular basis I just don't see it.
                        Me Either. Now just me, my opinion, I think Tony stewarts attitude is as bad or actually worse than Kyle Busch. But he too is a great racer, Sirry, great as Earnhardt SR was, he ran over a TON of people.

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                        • #27
                          David Pearson only ran the full season the 3 years he won his championships.

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                          • #28
                            hell i ran over a real good friend of mine at citrus in a pro challenge race a few years back. followed him for like 4laps and thought i would just move him....... he was ok with it they gave him his spot back and my coil burned up and i finished last anyway. all drivers do it some more than others.

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                            • #29
                              Yeah, thats right! LOL

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