Lm Rules

[Winger]

The past is the past but how come 15 years ago there was 1 Late Model. The same late Model you could take from Sunshine to Citrus to Desoto to Punta Gorda to Orlando to Auburndale. What happened to that Late Model. Someone asked me how all dirt tracks can run Late Models on a Saturday night and have a good turn-out at all tracks. It's because there is 1 Late Model that is legal and it is the same Late Model from here to Virginia.

Actually the dirt late models are basically in the same boat but they have adjustments for the different motor combinations. The Dirt Super Lates don't run in Florida except for speedweeks or a special WoO or Lucas show. Few of the local late model guys have a speical super but a few have motors to drop in their regular ride if they choose to run with the WoO or Lucas series. I'm going to paste a section from the BRP rules showing how the dirt lates adjust for the different combinations. In actuality, I believe there are probably more combinations in dirt but they make it work. You also have to realize dirt is different and side weight isn't an issue with these cars as they are with asphalt. You actually need a dirt car to transfer it's weight, although apparently not as much as several years ago.
# Gm crate motor cars 2250 lb with 12” spoiler.
# Nlms cars 2300 lb with 8” spoiler and crate side spoilers.
# East Bay 362ci motor cars 2450. 8” spoiler. Must be teched after race for weight inspection.

BTW MW68SS, I agree with you in theory. 1 late model or car in any division is enough. If you want to run a less expensive class, move down one. A sportsman might be a better fit.

[mr south 59]

Winger I wanted to reply to your other post. ,"whack job". Winger I have to say that was pretty funny. But about the points that you thought might be valid are really pretty far fetched in this day in age. Maybe 40 years. The deal is the rules already allow $20,000 shocks. There ain't no such thing as a trick shock any more. $15,000 trannys. There rules on these chassis were written in 1995 and the rules are the rules. These chassis aint getting much better. They have been refined for 15 years. You can only put the motor in a certain position plus or minus 1 inch. You can only put the fuel cell in a certain position. This series has no price cap on brakes. They already have the best brakes. You can run composite drive shaft. what I am saying is that it isn't like the ASA/Pro late model series was based on where you could only spend $300 per brake, $2000 for tranny, $350 per shock and things like that. This series caters to the big money teams. Those teams already have the best of the best. Nobody is complaining about that. But to also have the hp to weight ratio so lop sided in their direction. Why even race. If they can't beat a crate with 3 percent less weight they really ain't as good as some makes them out to be. Like Don said. If you can't beat them. Spend more money. That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. Is it just me.

If you really read the rules like I do there was some stuff written into these rules about chassis that is different than the "standard" chassis rules. That was the problem I had with these rules when they were written. If you built a car too the tee to these rules that FAST put out and Fups uses, the car would not be legal anywhere in the country. But it would be a special built car just for these rules. With that being said and knowing who wrote most of these rules. Who do you think has one of these special built cars? Which other guys do you think can afford to build a special car just for Florida? Why do you think these guys don't take these cars out of Florida and clean house like they do in Florida? Why not the Snowball or The Race? I know the answers.

That is why I know when the deck is stacked against you before you leave the house. Anybody can believe what ever they want but I do own a late model and I do know the rules. And I do know that when you say 55 left. I dont care what you think you are going the car 55 is 55. Left side weight is the great equalizer. If that don't work do 53. Its free.

EVERYBODY PLEASE DISREGARD THIS UNTIL I POST A WARNING!!!! THIS IS FOR DON NERONE
Don. You pm is full. When you hide behind your screen a pm me and threaten the life of my wife and my children and threaten to burn my house down you should really expect for me to pm you back. I have a written reply that I have tried to send you before I post a warning about you and post the pm you sent to me on this site and every other racing site I visit. Just because it is a pm does not mean it isn't illegal. And you put it in type. Your father must really be proud of you. Man up and clean out your pm.

[jacko241]

Wow, all this over silly, doesn't really matter in the big scheme of life, somewhat obscure late model series rules.

[Bigbuck]

Wow, all this over silly, doesn't really matter in the big scheme of life, somewhat obscure late model series rules.

right on partner, but remember, its all just internet entertainment!!! LOL