Auburndale for sale?

[Bigbuck]

In my opinion, with money being as tight as it is for fans, track owners, teams and everyone else out there, people now a days are going to spend their money on something that they can get the most value for.

Back in the old days when I was in New York, We used to have Freeport Speedway and Islip Speedway (both are long ago closed down and made into department stores or housing) but the stands we packed on any given race night. They used to run the regular feature races but they would also have a stunt driver/thrill show for the crowds after the heat races, they also had a demo derby on the same night. (lets face it fans like a good wreck), I like a good wreck too, just not with a limited or super late model!

As far as admission prices, heck with tap beer advertise a buy one get the second one free, kids under 12 get a free hot dog or something, maybe a free t-shirt night, maybe the track owners could contact some of the nascar drivers that live or are based in Florida to come out for a guest appearance on a race night or any "celebrity" for that matter.

As far as getting drivers back in the pits, offer free pit stall prices (if ya charge for it), or give away 10 gallons of fuel to entice teams back that have not been to the track in a while or free pit entry to the team and crew as a "welcome back gift" Everyone likes something for free!

I think that every track tries to treat everyone fairly and put on a good show, however, something is simply not working, the car counts are dropping and the stands are not full, by changing a few simple small items the tracks may see a little loss on a few cups of beer or a couple of hot dogs or hamburgers but in the long run wouldn't it attract more people when word spreads that the persons local track is "giving stuff away for free"?

This is only my opinion, I could be wrong but as someone mentioned about Ocala - Bubba is doing some right to get the fans back in the stands?

Thanks for reading!

Shawn.

I had to look at the name to make sure this wasnt one of my posts from a while ago!! I believe Shawn is exactly right. They used to have a stunt driver @ NSS, I forgot about that. Maybe the expense and ins isn't worth it? I also liked the burn out contest, if they/re worried about the track surface, ( I dont blame them) why not on pit road?? I have a truck that will either burn the tire off to the wheel OR burn a hole thru the pavement, which ever happens first. But do it on pit road, that sufrace can stand a little abuse. Lots more interesting than bean eating contest, which thankfully haven't seen in a while.

[Bigbuck]

Another Idea

I've always wanted a 2 lap race against that Big Bad Dodge Rumble Bee!!! One yr free pest control against 1 yr entry into the stands.

[Edm]

You gotta have cars to have fans. Osw and Nss stepped it up with the payouts and it still didn't help. I don't get it, one would think that with everyone complaining about payouts more cars would show up. Its all talk.

[openwm53]

osw and nss

payouts are weak....very weak

[EJC Engines]

dirt give there street stock 500 to win every week super stock here get a low 200 something yeah they brought up there pay out alittle but only running every other week it was $8 grandstand every night of race and 12 and under free and spead the word that its going to be every week more fans will come ive seen two or three tracks do it it might take a month but it will happen. and far as car count well if your not wining tech guys should mess with you worry about cars that run away with it

[Bigbuck]

Tunaman, it's been talked about on here for the past 10 years on how to turn it around. Things like less classes, just 4 and stop having these classes that just race 2 to 5 cars or trucks. And prices around $10.00. There are of course other things to get and keep drivers and pit crews. And alot of times it's the bad personallity of the person running the show (not that it's an easy job), but they make it even harder. A book could be writen by the owner of a well run track. But the bad run track owners wouldn't look at it because it's their way or the highway. In most cases it a subdivion that replaces their hard headed attitude.

I can't believe it!! A civil post from Rick to me, thank you. Excuse me while I catch my breath. Thing is, at some tracks if you cut out the classes that run 3-4 cars they would only have strictly and super stock. Ten yrs? Maybe but just 4-5 yrs ago it was a LOT better!

[UREZ2PASS]

I can't believe it!! A civil post from Rick to me, thank you. Excuse me while I catch my breath. Thing is, at some tracks if you cut out the classes that run 3-4 cars they would only have strictly and super stock. Ten yrs? Maybe but just 4-5 yrs ago it was a LOT better!

Tuna, as a friendly reminder, you might want to look at the results per class to verify which classes only have 3-4 cars. I think you will see that the numbers started off better at the beginning of the year but as usual they taper off mid-year then we will see numbers increase towards the end of the year. This is not always the case but more often than not.

[racer bob]

In my opinion, with money being as tight as it is for fans, track owners, teams and everyone else out there, people now a days are going to spend their money on something that they can get the most value for.

Back in the old days when I was in New York, We used to have Freeport Speedway and Islip Speedway (both are long ago closed down and made into department stores or housing) but the stands we packed on any given race night. They used to run the regular feature races but they would also have a stunt driver/thrill show for the crowds after the heat races, they also had a demo derby on the same night. (lets face it fans like a good wreck), I like a good wreck too, just not with a limited or super late model!

As far as admission prices, heck with tap beer advertise a buy one get the second one free, kids under 12 get a free hot dog or something, maybe a free t-shirt night, maybe the track owners could contact some of the nascar drivers that live or are based in Florida to come out for a guest appearance on a race night or any "celebrity" for that matter.

As far as getting drivers back in the pits, offer free pit stall prices (if ya charge for it), or give away 10 gallons of fuel to entice teams back that have not been to the track in a while or free pit entry to the team and crew as a "welcome back gift" Everyone likes something for free!

I think that every track tries to treat everyone fairly and put on a good show, however, something is simply not working, the car counts are dropping and the stands are not full, by changing a few simple small items the tracks may see a little loss on a few cups of beer or a couple of hot dogs or hamburgers but in the long run wouldn't it attract more people when word spreads that the persons local track is "giving stuff away for free"?

This is only my opinion, I could be wrong but as someone mentioned about Ocala - Bubba is doing some right to get the fans back in the stands?

Thanks for reading!

ShaQUESSwn.

YES SHAWN .....THEY ALSO RAN RIVERHED ALL IN THE SAME NIGHT ...
I QUESS WHEN YOU GIVE VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR THE FANS WILL COME..
WHAT YEARS DID YOU GO TO FREEPORT .

[Bigbuck]

Tuna, as a friendly reminder, you might want to look at the results per class to verify which classes only have 3-4 cars. I think you will see that the numbers started off better at the beginning of the year but as usual they taper off mid-year then we will see numbers increase towards the end of the year. This is not always the case but more often than not.

Im sure its usually better at the start of the yr, people need a racing fix. Plus, remember say march there are still a pile of snow birds here.March is one of my best months. By july? The population is half what it was in Feb and March. Also, OSW has been rined out what 3 weeks in a row? Omething like that. I've said dozens of times, I hope it gets better. But for example, the last 50lap sportsman @NSS? 7 started, 6 finished, kind of. I'm just saying the crowd were far better 4-5 yrs ago. we had say10 minis EVERY week. 10-12 trucks every week, late models, limited lates. I dont know whats wrong.

[Bigbuck]

You gotta have cars to have fans. Osw and Nss stepped it up with the payouts and it still didn't help. I don't get it, one would think that with everyone complaining about payouts more cars would show up. Its all talk.

EDM, it proves theres more to it than payouts.

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Edm View Post
You gotta have cars to have fans. Osw and Nss stepped it up with the payouts and it still didn't help. I don't get it, one would think that with everyone complaining about payouts more cars would show up. Its all talk.

EDM, it proves theres more to it than payouts.

It does take more than just payouts. However, when I saw the "higher" payouts earlier this year, I thought they were still ridiculously low. How do the FASCAR payouts compare to the other Florida tracks? Then, how do they compare to other tracks around the country? How is the purse distributed? i.e. Is the purse top heavy at the expense of the cars that finish further back? I guess that's not an issue if you only have 5 cars in a class. (That is sarcasm, everyone.) What is the cost to race at the tracks? How does that compare to what it costs in other parts of the country? Do all tracks require fuel purchases, tire purchases, pit slab fees, entry fees, etc. in addition to pit pass charges? I'm not saying anyone charges all this but some require most. Is tech fair? Is everyone treated fairly? These are the same old questions but I don't believe you can expect the "higher" payouts to really make a difference.

[Bigbuck]

It does take more than just payouts. However, when I saw the "higher" payouts earlier this year, I thought they were still ridiculously low. How do the FASCAR payouts compare to the other Florida tracks? Then, how do they compare to other tracks around the country? How is the purse distributed? i.e. Is the purse top heavy at the expense of the cars that finish further back? I guess that's not an issue if you only have 5 cars in a class. (That is sarcasm, everyone.) What is the cost to race at the tracks? How does that compare to what it costs in other parts of the country? Do all tracks require fuel purchases, tire purchases, pit slab fees, entry fees, etc. in addition to pit pass charges? I'm not saying anyone charges all this but some require most. Is tech fair? Is everyone treated fairly? These are the same old questions but I don't believe you can expect the "higher" payouts to really make a difference.

Winger, you are soooo right on many points. I believe its more how the people in charge treat the racers. There are many staying home because of the points you bring up. Payouts are important but no one pays enough for the racer to make anything. So payouts are not the only answer.

[openwm53]

Compare

there payouts to other local tracks............then look at car counts........