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They need to change some stuff in nascar...and the biggest is change the cars!! The s in nascar stands for stock..I dont think 1 thing on them cars are stock
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I definately agree with the stock opinion, but at the same time, a racecar should look "fast" sitting still. COT doesn't even remotely look fast....You can educate the ignorant......but you cant fix stupidComment
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Evidently everyone on here is nuts but you Legend. What track was it that reversed it's configuration? Are you so old fashioned you think needs do not change in 50 yrs? What do you think the chances were of a car flying into the stands in 1960? They ran what 160 mph? Did you have a suggestion? Or are you one of these idiots that think they should take away the plates and "let em race"? Sure, why not, boy it would really be exciting to watch them fly in the stands! like on i4 when someone has a flat tire and the traffic on the other side backs up for 5 miles just because a few rubber neckers have to almost stop hoping to see bodies and carnage. I know lots don't like NASCAR at all but Indy is 2 1/2 miles with very little banking, is the racing not a lot better there? Just because you're the same no as 50 hrs ago, some things aren't. So my answer is YES, change the configuration, even someone nuts like me will slow down in the turns, is that not where the problem is???Originally posted by legendofauto View PostComment
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Yes, stock would be better, but they would still run fast enough to fly in the stands, that is if they were stock. So the plate would still be needed to keep them on the ground, o probably we'd go back to 30 car lines nose to tail. Was that better?Comment
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In 50 years, a car has never gone into the stands. Why bring up a scenario that has never existed? Coulda, woulda, shoulda...Comment
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Why did they put restrictor plates on the cars anyway Mr. Legend ?Originally posted by legendofauto View Post
I hope you are in a privately funded insane asylum so my tax dollars are not paying for your Internet service.Comment
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Wow, what a reaction for someone not going along with your NASCAR bashing!
BTW, they aren't called insane asylums anymore. You must really be old or just uninformed...
Also, let me know how I can get YOUR tax dollars to pay for any of my services! 
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Tim is exactly right.........these guys are getting paid no matter what.......I know we can't go back to the way it was but I would love to see owners pay a much smaller guaranteed salary and let these guys get paid by their finishes. Maybe they could be on one year contracts too.......it would create a mess for the marketing partners but maybe add a little excitement to the racing anyway....EAT WHAT YOU WIN!!!!
Now they get a ride.....hang around for 5 years and run mid pack hoping for a top 10 , get paid boat loads of money for mediocrity and then when they get released from a cup team they go take a nationwide or truck ride from an up and comer and make more money doing nothing......ie......Sadler, Sorenson, Wallace's etc......
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If I'm not mistaken, The plates were put on because Jeff Bodine Nearly flew into the stands, both in a truck AND a car, in fact if I'm not mistaken, parts of his cr DID fly in the stands.The reason they make them use plates is for the safety of the fans. Why? Because without the plates they estimate they would be traveling around 220 today. They were flying off the track at 200. And yet you say "Has anyone flown into the stands"? And call me nuts!!! So youre saying they should let them go and wait and see if they fly into the stands? Why are they so fast? Because of the high banks, maybe I'm nuts but until the plates are removed they all will run the same HP and the same aero, which translates to boring racing. Lower banking, they will have to let off or push straight into the wall. The present scenario is best for business, why? There are soooo many people that go to the track to see wrecks. Still havent heard a doable solution by you Legend, but yet you call me nuts. Wasn't it you that asked "Isn't this a racing forum"? What part of discussing racing requires calling someone nuts?Originally posted by legendofauto View PostComment
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Originally posted by legendofauto View Post
Legendofyourownmind I quoted your reply so there would be no question of what you said to gather my attention. So soon you forget that a wisearse reply will get a response everytime. Remember that next time you get in the ring with me. I hope they let you out of that straightjacket soon.Comment
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To Fred
I agree with you, but its the same in ALL of top level sports. Baseball, look at their salaries, Football, same deal, Hockey, NBA all same deal. Half these bozos sign for 10-15 million dollars a yr. Some pitchers have contracts for 40-50 Thousand Dollars a pitch, and sit out the entire year with a sore finger. So racing is no differant. It even has trickled down to some degree to the local short tracks. Big money teams get special exceptions making it impossible for the average guy to race anymore. I dont have the answer, but I do agree, the blame is $$$$$$. And as far as NASCAR goes, part of the blame was the fans, they were willing to pay hundreds of dollars for 3 day tickets. Hopefully the downturn in fan interest will change some of this.Comment
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Ahh, you are mistaken but that's ok...plates came from Bobby Allison's wreck at Talledega. Again, no car has ever gone into the stands at Daytona. Parts go in the stands sure, thats been going on for years and it wouldn't make any difference if the speeds were 75 mph or 225 mph.Originally posted by tunaman View Post
BTW also, they were running 210 avg's in the 80's, so straight speeds were 220 plus back then. There have been more "big ones", flips, and flying cars SINCE the plates went on.
Sorry, again the notion of changing the banking, as a knee jerk reaction, at a legendary track is a bizarre idea. I have never heard that suggested in my life.
BTW, this thread was a complaint thread regarding some claiming there was a poor race at Daytona...my, my how we expand on things...not all folks feel that the race was bad.Last edited by legendofauto; 07-05-2011, 01:34 PM.Comment
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While I don't agree with everything you said there is one thing within this statement that is the very purpose of why I DO post on this board. I have no problem with a complaint, opinion, rant, question or statement. It's when people add words like "all" "many" "alot" "everyone" and others to validate their statements and make it appear as if they are speaking for the majority... THAT'S when I speak up and call them on it....in the end....we see that they stand alone or at the very least, who they are surrounded by...Originally posted by legendofauto View PostYou can educate the ignorant......but you cant fix stupidComment
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ok Mr Legend, I'm wrong, you're right, now do you feel better. Do the names make a big differance? I'm saying as long as they run plates the racing will stink. I can think of no other way to remove the plates. But you're just another lug nut that likes to argue and you havent even made a suggestion. Legend? Never heard of you but you're becoming a Legend fast. So go ahead, slam me again like you have EZ and Bobby Deil and you be the big lug nut that got the last word. Oh, left hand lug nuts do not work!!Originally posted by legendofauto View PostComment
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