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  • Serious Question for Sportsman Racers

    No promise or anything but I need to know how many sportsman racers would be interested in another series for sportsman?? You can comment here or e-mail me (racingjls@aol.com) what it would take for you to run a series.

    Like I said, this is a serious question for you. Please no bs just honest answers.

    Jane

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    First off I think it should be a 10 to 12 race series. There needs to be a very aggresive tech man and strictly enforced rules package. Make the rule book and stick to it for 2 seasons. Put them on an 8" treaded tire that would last for atleast 3 races like the old goodyear treaded tire would. Pay a fair purse and make car's that finish 11th through last atleast get there entry fee back. Promote the series like Todd Hutto did, and don't be afraid to send out invitation's to racer's to come race. Try to get all the remaining asphault tracks involved on the rule's and scheduling. And last but not least, if you win a race you add 25 pound's to your car, and make it 25 pound's also for each additional race won, to be carried until the first race of next season. Post the car weight on the windshield.

    I am starting to build a new car, and if you know anything about something that is going to happen, I would like to know before I get too far along.

    Thanks Patrick Thomas
    407-227-3205

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    • #3
      Yep, that pretty much puts it in a nut shell. The Southern Sportsman Series had a strong following before......................... took it over. Raced at different tracks, moderate amount of races, good payouts, fair tech, great car counts, and good competitive racing. They set the bar pretty high.

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      • #4
        Just courious, if everyone gets their entry fee back then why bother to charge one??

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        • #5
          I am not sure why they charge entry fees, since every Sportsman series race I ever ran I got atleast my entry fee back, even if I finished last. The car counts ranged from 18 to 35 car's from 2004 through early 2007, which was the year of the regime change, and it was a very competitive mostly fair run series. I wish it would have stayed the way it was in the early year's, it sure was a blast. If something new would come around, I would be in to give it a try.

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          • #6
            Ok Jane you ask and all of the above are good things for a start. Another thing is the owner of the series CAN'T be an owner of a track. As good as Todd was he started out slow ONE series (Mini Stocks). But then got thinking he could do it with other series. Plus be part owner on a track. Both ways are wrong. The owner of any new series no matter what class should have just the one series and that's his only focus! Have a race for the series once a month. From March to Dec 1th. And do like Todd did his last year. Take June, July and Aug. OFF. Why because of the heat and rain. Just ask those who went to Lake City for the Sportsmen race that was rained out a few weeks ago. How fun is it for a 4 or more hour round trip for a rain out. Jane your asking the right questions. But it needs to be the person running the Series coming on here asking. And one other thing. Have a meeting if possible with as many drivers as possible and get their in put from the start. Or at least get a list of drivers who were in the series or new ones the would like to be in the series for their input. And again have the best techman possible! And give him all the tools he will need to check the cars from top to bottom. Oh and LET the officals on the track make the calls with out having the owner or manager of the series over riding them.

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            • #7
              And the owner and officials should have no affiliation with any car what so ever.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tunaman View Post
                Just courious, if everyone gets their entry fee back then why bother to charge one??
                I think the reason that some may do it is because when a guy gets DQ'd, for any reason, the driver typically gets nothing at the pay window.

                It kind of makes sense to me. Some guys will act like an ass after the race, threatening other drivers, trying to start fights, etc. Others will try to cheat to get through tech. It seems like there should be some kind of penalty for doing that sort of thing, other than just a DQ in the finishing order. At least by charging an entry fee, the series would pocket the money for all dq's and (hopefully) use it for something productive like expenses, or maybe year-end awards.

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                • #9
                  And b4 you all start to argue about tire, purses and ruling in general, don't forget to establish a strong and solid promotion program that will put your serie attractive to race fans, medias in general and racers, not just ''another serie'' going track to track. And that is the biggest challenge.
                  André Fortin

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                  • #10
                    CLAIM RULE!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by andre View Post
                      And b4 you all start to argue about tire, purses and ruling in general, don't forget to establish a strong and solid promotion program that will put your serie attractive to race fans, medias in general and racers, not just ''another serie'' going track to track. And that is the biggest challenge.
                      But then again....it is just another series going track to track. But you are right about getting it promoted both by the series it's self and by the track that it's racing at that weekend.

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                      • #12
                        All this does help, please keep your comments and ideas coming. Like I stated, this is a serious question with honest answers needed.

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                        • #13
                          I would 1st & foremost try to get a commitment of a brand name sponsor. 3 fields of businesses I would look into:

                          Computerized world.

                          Energy drinks.

                          Canned and bottled car stuff: I.E.: Lucas oil, Sinto, these kinda companies are the hot ticket today.

                          These companies have more media & advertizing power than you will ever have.
                          André Fortin

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                          • #14
                            JANE

                            The only problem I see with having a series would be getting the tracks to go along with it. Every track is trying to run Sportsmen races on there own with fair car count. I think it would be good for a good Sportsmen series in Florida and could be great car count for all tracks in Floirda if ran right.


                            Gary Laplant

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                            • #15
                              I agree 100% Gary. I know it won't be easy working with tracks and getting them to believe in a series but I think it can be done if done right. And I think they are alot of sportsman out there right now just parked and maybe they would unpark for a good series where they know where they stand and they are needed and appreciated.

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