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    Kyle Busch intentionally takes out Brad Keselowski,the race leader, in the Nationwide Series race at Bristol Friday night and even admits to doing so. Everyone in the house except the NASCAR officials clearly saw it. I say the NASCAR officials apparently didn't see it as they let him go on to take the win, while Keselowski got an unjust 14th place finish.

    It all started when Kyle made the pass of Keselowski with 31 laps to go, but as he slid in front of Keselowski, Busch didn’t have him cleared and contact between the cars sent Busch down the track and back to second.

    There was an error in judgment on the part of either Kyle's spotter or Kyle himself. The spotter is general the person who tells the driver he is clear of the car he is passing and he can move over. Was it an error on the part of the spotter or did Kyle ignore his spotter and just move up into Brad? The blame surely could not rest with Brad for what happened.

    Kyle wasted no time driving back up to Keselowski’s bumper and intentionally spun him. Keselowski, the Nationwide Series points leader, wound up 14th while Busch survived several late cautions to go to Victory Lane.

    NASCAR officials did absolutely nothing. Wouldn't the right thing have been to immediately black flag Kyle for rough riding? He would have the customary three courtesy laps to pit and find out why he was given the black flag and if he didn't pit scoring should have ceased on the car. Of course NASCAR has a history for some reason for never being able to do the right thing. They are either gutless wonders or totally clueless as to how to properly run a race.

    Another plausible option, and maybe the better thing to have done, would have been to put out the caution flag, put Kyle at the end of the lead lap for the intentional spin out of Keselowski and reinstate Keselowski to the lead.

    As NASCAR ponders why attendance is down and the television audience is dwindling, they need look no further than themselves and the inept way they run things.

  • #2
    Guess that is why I hardly ever watch a NASCAR race (of any kind) anymore. I have watched the trucks when Johanna Long has raced but haven't set down and watch a NASCAR car race in awhile. They are a JOKE anymore and I am just tired of watching the mess. Rather watch a funny dvd instead.
    Last edited by Jane; 08-22-2010, 10:02 AM.

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    • #3
      and this surprises anyone? yet this is where most of the short track talent want to be. like most open wheel guys want to be in f1 or at indy.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by John Berti View Post
        Kyle Busch intentionally takes out Brad Keselowski,the race leader, in the Nationwide Series race at Bristol Friday night and even admits to doing so. Everyone in the house except the NASCAR officials clearly saw it. I say the NASCAR officials apparently didn't see it as they let him go on to take the win, while Keselowski got an unjust 14th place finish.
        of course they saw it.

        my question to you is: why do you expect NASCAR to treat Busch any differently than they treated Earnhardt for blatantly taking out Terry Labonte? this has been their policy for only ... 60 years now?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79DaWrMD70

        way longer than i've been around, anyways.

        you want the leader to be given special protection you'd best go road racing or stay at a local track. NASCAR never has given a spun car it's position back, no matter how badly they were screwed. claiming to expect any other call from them is just silly. they certainly didn't do anything about Tony Stewart flagrantly destroying Boris Said's car two weeks ago.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj2yiwoWiNY

        i think that's what was actually setting off Edwards' temper tantrums the first few years he got into Cup though; mentally, he kept expecting NASCAR to penalize someone who had worked him over or thought maybe NASCAR would give him his spot back. never has happened, never was gonna happen. but still, intensely frustrating to someone who's racing with a short track 'the officials will protect my position' mentality.

        Carl's interaction with Krashawallski this year proves that he finally understands the NASCAR ethic. NASCAR isn't ever going to do anything constructive to correct Krash's stupidity, it's up to every individual driver to prove that Krash is not going to make them his own personal bitch.



        Originally posted by John Berti View Post
        Busch didn’t have him cleared
        wow. no.

        do you understand the difference between front bumper to rear bumper ( cleared ) contact and quarter panel to quarter panel ( not cleared ) contact?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hcz7Zg7LwA#t=0m27s

        Kyle raced him side by side for 15 laps and never touched him.

        the issue arose because just as Kyle pulled up into the clear space in front of Krashawallski he twitched loose and had to blip the throttle. and Krash, having fully earned his nickname over nearly two years of NASCAR competition now, immediately took the opportunity to put Kyle in the wall and take the position back. Kyle got turned because Krash cranked the wheel to the left AFTER Krash had put his bumper on him.

        if you've got a problem with Kyle's action here then i fully expect you to be calling for the penalization of Jeff Gordon for his driving at Martinsville this year:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAA4OYfRMY

        it is the same thing, after all.



        Originally posted by John Berti View Post
        Kyle wasted no time driving back up to Keselowski’s bumper and intentionally spun him.

        lessee, Kyle takes 15 laps passing Krash the hard way. the clean way. and what does it get him? put in the wall? and you seriously think he's not going to immediately give back to that fucking moron Krashawallski what Krashawallski just gave him?

        fact: this exact on-track scenario would have happened at ANY SHORT TRACK IN THE COUNTRY. there is no short track, anywhere, where you can manhandle another car and NOT have that driver coming right back at you if he has any chance to do so. and it doesn't even really matter whether you were in the 'right' or not.

        that is the first lesson of the chrome horn; don't use it unless you are damn sure you can get away from the guy you just used it on. you probably aren't going to like the result if you don't.

        the difference at the short track is that both participants would be put at the back of the field where NASCAR normally lets the 'winner' of the incident stay up front.

        and, really, anyone who has watched NASCAR for more than a year should be fully aware of that.
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        • #5
          I think if they have a villain that will create drama on the track, that will draw fan interest. Carl Edwards was put on probation for this same exact thing a few weeks ago.

          I turn the channel every time I see KB up front. I don't know why but I would like to knock his friggen head off.

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          • #6
            He turned Jennifer Jo Cobb in the truck race, Brad Keslowski in Busch race, ran into Reutiman and God know who else in the Cup race.

            T-mac you can justify anything you want with this dirt bag but when it all boils down he is still a dirt bag.

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            • #7
              Carl Edwards was put on probation for this same exact thing a few weeks ago.



              a - TWO drivers were put on probation a few weeks ago. gee, i wonder who that second driver would be?

              b - this is NOT what Edwards got probation for. what Edwards ( and Krash ) got put on probation for was the scary nature of the wrecks that they were causing. as well as the fact that the situation seemed to be escalating.

              Brad doesn't look like he's going to be a very fast learner. but then, until Friday night, Carl was the only driver who had actually made him pay for his assholishness. ( sorry Denny, spinning him out once with not even any body damage doesn't begin to count )

              i would actually enjoy it if Krash went out and walled Busch intentionally. because, right now? Busch tries to race everybody clean. Carl has set the bar ( literally ) very high ( 20 feet? ). i think if Krash tries to start a war with Kyle, Kyle might well set his mind on bettering what Carl has done so far. and Kyle is going to be faster than Krash in a whole bunch of races. there's not going to be any way for Krash to get away from him if Kyle goes head hunting.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Todd McCreary View Post
                [I]Busch tries to race everybody clean.
                REALLY? Maybe you should make an appointment with the optometrist. Do you want me to look a few up for you?


                I just came up with an idea, You Tube should come up with a zoom feature, might make things a little clearer for you.

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                • #9
                  Weclome back Todd- i think.

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                  • #10
                    Crashlowski comes in the series and shoves veterans around and its the veteran's fault when they retaliate? Busch races you the race you race him. Im not a Nascar fan but I have respect for what he does in a racecar.

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                    • #11
                      Kyles not stupid...

                      i cant stand him. he is an arrogant disrespectful puke... however... i truly think he is one of the best racers ever....he breaks all kinds of records and he is thrilling to watch but i do get excited when he screws up...lol
                      he is not intimidated by anyone! he does have a sick sense of humor and thats what makes him famous. he laughs all the way to the bank...he thrives on BOOS!
                      keselowski isnt near the racer that kyle is... he's immature...
                      just my opinion...
                      if all the drivers had the personality of Kasey Kayne i think we would die of boredom during interviews etc. hes a great kid and good racer but BORING. Kyle and Brad are not boring.
                      carol aka oz
                      Last edited by carolwicks; 08-22-2010, 08:50 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Did anyone catch Clint Bowyer's post interview about Kyle? He said "Love him or hate him that little turd can drive" I guess he doesn't like him to much???
                        Ricky Smallwood

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                        • #13
                          Just one question

                          Does anyone here think Earnhardt Sr. would put up with what Keselowski did?


                          I can't stand Busch but I am amazed that when someone is disliked like he is everything is his fault I would have dumped the other little A hole too.


                          just my 2 cents

                          Tom

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                          • #14
                            Like I said, I don't watch NASCAR anymore except when Johanna runs the truck and then I will watch her and Aric. But I just don't care for NASCAR anymore and they are losing fans both in the stands and tv. Oh well, it is nothing more than a money game anyway anymore.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tccaz View Post
                              Does anyone here think Earnhardt Sr. would put up with what Keselowski did?


                              I can't stand Busch but I am amazed that when someone is disliked like he is everything is his fault I would have dumped the other little A hole too.


                              just my 2 cents

                              Tom
                              Absolutely not.

                              What I cannot believe is everyone compares this jack ass to Sr. Maybe on the track but off the track, argue it any way you want Kb is a piece of crap.

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