Do you think they should rename the mini stocks at NSS to mod mini's and add a real mini stock class like a few other tracks have? I think they would have a good car count using very limited chassis,body, an engine mods so u dont have to build a 12k to 16k car to race in a 4cyl class there...
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Mini stocks are sick and I believe it is because of the engines. I really like the construction of the cars. The modern minis are tube frame, purpose built racecars. They are much easier to work on, repair and adjust than old rusty unibody stuff from the junkyard. The cars are not the problem, but the fact that we are running high compression, high RPM antique engines is where the expense comes in.
I have good engines built. They are usually in the $5000 range. Some racers can get by with less money, but others spend twice as much. The life is limited too. To stay competitive, they need rebuilding after 500 laps or so. A rebuild is usually around $1000, so that puts the engine bill for a competitive mini stock at $2 a lap!
That makes a crate V8 sound very appealing doesn't it?
At the last rules meeting, I suggested going to more modern engines, (with EFI, dual cam, multi valves, etc..) and even 6 cylinders. In their stock form, most of these engines make good power and cost much less. Anything to get away from the antique Fords that most of us use would be an improvement. The other car owners looked at me like I was from Mars, and it was discussed no further. By the way, most of those owners have dropped out of the class since that time.Last edited by Boneman; 05-23-2011, 08:43 AM.
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Originally posted by Casteel Racing View PostDo you think they should rename the mini stocks at NSS to mod mini's and add a real mini stock class like a few other tracks have? I think they would have a good car count using very limited chassis,body, an engine mods so u dont have to build a 12k to 16k car to race in a 4cyl class there...
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If anyone knows me i raced the white #9 thunderbird some years back an it had a stock chassis besides front being tubed.It had stock 4 link stock struts and shocks. I built my own engines an maybe had 5k in it all together and won against the big dollar cars.What im looking at is car count an in order to get 4cyl cars back at NSS i think they need look at the other tracks that have 15 to 20 cars in mini stocks that cost a lot less.If i raced there again i would want to race with all the cars instead of two big dollar cars...
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"Mini" stocks didn't evolve from "Mini" stocks to what they are today on their own. Who did it and who let it happen? So now they're called "mod minis". Does that make any more sence or any more affordable? I mean $20,000 to build a "Mini" or "mod mini" or whatever you want to call it. Also seems to me the popularity of "Mini" stocks started droping when they stoped running them in speed weeks, people lost interest in them. Its too bad, they used to put on a great show, and were affordable.
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I agree with Hired Gun when the Mini Stock Challenge was formed NSS changed there mini stock rules as other tracks did to meet there rules an sense that series has dismantled NSS still calls there 4cyl class mini stocks when there actually mod mini's now.You couldnt take a mini stock from Citrus or Adale an compete with the NSS mini's.Thats why i think they need to do as the other tracks and keep the mod mini's but give back the mini stocks..
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Originally posted by Casteel Racing View PostI agree with Hired Gun when the Mini Stock Challenge was formed NSS changed there mini stock rules as other tracks did to meet there rules an sense that series has dismantled NSS still calls there 4cyl class mini stocks when there actually mod mini's now.You couldnt take a mini stock from Citrus or Adale an compete with the NSS mini's.Thats why i think they need to do as the other tracks and keep the mod mini's but give back the mini stocks..
Agreed mini stocks and mod minis two different classes, i love for someone to fix this because a dale is such a far drive for me
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a new affordable class would be a great idea . and cheaper than asking existing mod-minis to spend more money changing engines and all that goes with the change . not to mention the chaos in tech with fuel injection and computers . and as far as popularity goes , thats only an issue over there on the east coast . punta gorda , citrus , auburndale and most dirt tracks have 15 to 20 mod-minis each race . same for all classes . well over 20 modifieds at citrus two weeks ago . and if you look around , a front running mod-mini can be bought race ready for around $6000 , not $ 20,000 ! and havent i read on here that the other fascar track lake city runs a hornet class ? there you go !
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You can buy a mod mini for that price and when the engine blows look at what your going to spend on rebuilding even if you do it yourself believe me ive been building an racing these things for years an know what it takes. Just look NSS has a modified class and an e mod class now why would they have two modified classes and two late model classes an so on an so on...
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Originally posted by Casteel Racing View PostYou can buy a mod mini for that price and when the engine blows look at what your going to spend on rebuilding even if you do it yourself believe me ive been building an racing these things for years an know what it takes. Just look NSS has a modified class and an e mod class now why would they have two modified classes and two late model classes an so on an so on...
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I just think the mini stocks there suck bad. If you've ever gone out an watched them like(fans) do there's really two races going on.You have the same 2 maybe 3 cars winning all the time an the other cars having there own race.Now if you had a more affordable mini stock as to why they have mods and e mods they'ed have more than just pete and repete winning all of the them.There would be more racing action for us to have an for the (fans) to see...If i raced there again i would like to(have fun and give the fans a show) and race against more than just 1 car all the time...
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Originally posted by Casteel Racing View PostI just think the mini stocks there suck bad. If you've ever gone out an watched them like(fans) do there's really two races going on.You have the same 2 maybe 3 cars winning all the time an the other cars having there own race.Now if you had a more affordable mini stock as to why they have mods and e mods they'ed have more than just pete and repete winning all of the them.There would be more racing action for us to have an for the (fans) to see...If i raced there again i would like to(have fun and give the fans a show) and race against more than just 1 car all the time...
They should do another class just for "mini stocks". The Modified Mini Stocks today are basically a late model with a 4cyl, the cost to run up front and compete are crazy. A GOOD motor will run you 8-10k by the time you put everything on it carb to oil pan. Rex is dead on with his costs. We did the math and if we didnt have the sponsors we do it would cost us around $2.15 a lap. A stock mini class would be a good thing over there.Nathan Florian
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