just say not to clinton

[afr]

yep
todd the president has to pass bills around the loop to get back to his desk to sign as well

and nothing ever gets done
anything they get there hands on or noses in does the opposite it is designed to do
there pass history shows that

[larrytg]

recommended reading and quiz

"The Creature from Jekyll Island" a second look at the federal reserve by G. Edward Griffin (no relation to pee wee)
Interesting stuff only 600 pages.

2 part quiz (advanced)
You run 5 laps at osw with the following times. (Boneman driving)
Lap 1 20 sec
2 21
3 22
4 23
5 44

What is your average time and what is the median?

What is the significance (or lack thereof) of the number 71?

Have the dems found a way to blow a 100 lap lead???????

This is fun

[Winger]

That's the name of the book I read. I couldn't think of it. It is enlightening.

Quiz:
Average is 26 seconds. Median is 22 I believe.
Or the median may be what Boneman ran over on lap 4 to blow his tire, giving him a 44 lap time on his last lap.

No idea what 71 is unless it's the number Dave Marcis ran for years and he's not running it now.

If the dems nominate Hilary I think they will give up any advantage. I may be wrong though. I have some very good democratic friends from Massachusetts that I harass from time to time. Quite influential in the democratic party actually. I tell them they need to nominate someone that can win. It seems like they haven't been able to do that since Clinton was president. I can't see Hilary being any different but I can imagine Obama doing it. Time will tell.

[Todd McCreary]

todd the president has to pass bills around the loop to get back to his desk to sign as well

no.

the President has nothing to do with writing or initiating laws. the only thing he can 'officially' do is veto something he doesn't like. then the prospective law goes back to Congress and they try to override his veto with a 2/3rds majority vote.

the President can influence the bill writing process somewhat by saying "I'd like such and such to be put into law" or "I'ma veto that if you put it on my desk" but he has no other official lawmaking powers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto#United_States

[AB195]

Winger, you sound alright, through and through.
But wouldn't it be kind-of weird, if another Clinton would be Prez.

I mean:
Old Bush---4 years---
B. Clinton--8 years---
G.W. Bush-8 years---
H. Clinton--4 years---

Almost a 1/4 Century with only 2 families that could lead this Country.
Two (2) Families, for the past 1/4 Century: is that all the better that there is to lead the Nation?
C'mon, there has to more out there, that the general public will elect.

Two Families for the past 1/4 Century?

This Nation is only a tad-bit over 200 years old.
Youngsters we are.

[Boneman]

Well I am sorry, but 5 laps gets me a little fatiqued.

Here is a guess on the number series. Including the 71, it would make a curve that looks like the taxes paid by Americans. 39% of all taxes are paid by 1% of the population, while a huge percentage pays nothing, gets the benefits and does the complaining.

[afr]

todd the president has to pass bills around the loop to get back to his desk to sign as well

no.

the President has nothing to do with writing or initiating laws. the only thing he can 'officially' do is veto something he doesn't like. then the prospective law goes back to Congress and they try to override his veto with a 2/3rds majority vote.

the President can influence the bill writing process somewhat by saying "I'd like such and such to be put into law" or "I'ma veto that if you put it on my desk" but he has no other official lawmaking powers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto#United_States

opps ok my bad
i thought he could make up bills and budget plans
so back to what i really thought he is just a puppet hu
wo

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[Todd McCreary]

i thought he could make up bills and budget plans

he can use the "bully pulpit" to campaign for specific policies with Congressmen.

IF his party controls Congress AND he presents them with a list of specific budgeting items he has a better than even chance of getting what he asked for.

plus a whole bunch of pork that he didn't but that happens with everything.

in the current situation, he's kind of along for the ride on bill and budget writing except for his veto power. this is hardly negligible. maybe if the Dhimmicrats had bothered passing anything you'd have gotten a chance to see him use it.

there are plenty of valid reasons to complain about Bush, you don't need to tar him with the Dems f-ups.

[larrytg]

I've always loved bush but it's way harder to find these days.
Forgive me if I wax nostolgic.
Larry